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Peter in Reno
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More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope?
      #2624418 - 09/04/08 08:42 PM Attachment (15 downloads)

I just bought Orion EON 80mm scope and ADM mini-dovetail to be mounted on C-11 and Atlas EQ-G mount. Without the guide scope, I already used three 11 pounds counter weights. How much more counter weight do you think I need to add or is it too much for Atlas EQ-G to handle?

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Celestron 11" OTA with ADM Losmandy dovetail
Orion EON 80mm
Orion Short Tube 80mm with ADM mini-dovetail and clam shell tube rings
Orion StarShoot Pro CCD camera
Orion StarShoot Auto Guider
Nagler 31mm
Ethos 13mm and 8 mm
2" William Optics diagonal
Atlas EQ-G with 1" CW shaft from Telescope Stability Systems, ADM Losmandy saddle.


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Zebra24601
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: Peter in Reno]
      #2624789 - 09/05/08 12:36 AM

I need four on my shorter-armed Sirius mount just to balance the C11. Be careful with your balancing and you should be fine by adding a fourth. But this really looks to be at the limit for the mount.

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Zebra24601

Meade 8" SCT w/UHTC * Celestron 100ED * Celestron C11 * Barska 15x70 binoculars
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mielejr
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: Zebra24601]
      #2625135 - 09/05/08 09:02 AM

From looking at the moment arms in your picture, I'd say you need almost twice as much in extra counterweight as that 80mm scope weighs.

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RAKing
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: mielejr]
      #2625165 - 09/05/08 09:24 AM

Peter,

Go to Robin Casady's web site. Besides producing some super cool astro goodies, he shows you how to calculate the counterweights.

http://www.robincasady.com/Astro/WeightCalc.html

Take care,

Ron

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sang33ta
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: RAKing]
      #2625466 - 09/05/08 12:14 PM

I always prefer a longer arm to more weight.

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Peter in Reno
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Reged: 07/15/08
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: sang33ta]
      #2625474 - 09/05/08 12:19 PM

Quote:

I always prefer a longer arm to more weight.




Is there a longer arm available for Atlas EQ-G mounts? Thicker arm would be nice to reduce flexure.

Thanks,
Peter

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Celestron 11" OTA with ADM Losmandy dovetail
Orion EON 80mm
Orion Short Tube 80mm with ADM mini-dovetail and clam shell tube rings
Orion StarShoot Pro CCD camera
Orion StarShoot Auto Guider
Nagler 31mm
Ethos 13mm and 8 mm
2" William Optics diagonal
Atlas EQ-G with 1" CW shaft from Telescope Stability Systems, ADM Losmandy saddle.


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mattyfatz
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Re: More counterweight for C-11 and 80mm guide scope? new [Re: Peter in Reno]
      #2625526 - 09/05/08 12:46 PM

ScopeStuff used to have a toe weight. You thread it to the bottom of the arm in place of the end cap. I think it weighed a little less and it may work if your needs are in between weights. I was just on their sit but I could not find it.

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