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MessierScott
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: Steven Aggas]
      #2506350 - 07/08/08 01:32 PM

Thanks to this list, I got a few off-the-beaten-path log entries this last week! I also finally got first light with my new Denk II binoviewers!

The ASKC held their annual Heart of America Star Party from June 27 - July 3.

Many nights were clouded over, but during 3 incredibly transparent nights I captured: planetary Me 2-1, galaxy PGC46714 (galaxy next to Mizar), planetary DHW 2-1, planetary GJJC in M22, galaxy PGC54559 (Hoag's Object), newly clasified globular AL-3, the actual Pillars of Creation in M16, the two anonymous galaxies SW of M12, and Parsamyan 21!

Plus I logged another 11 Arp galaxies, Hickson 50, a couple Local Group galaxies, and finished logging my last Milky Way globular north of declination -49 degrees !

Thanks to this list I'm constantly challenged to go deeper and further off the beaten path.

You never know what is visible until you try for it!

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Steven Aggas
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: MessierScott]
      #2506413 - 07/08/08 02:15 PM

Very cool.... Good job on knocking some off the list.

I'm still looking for more entries from everyone. How about the Horsehead in Hydrogen Alpha light....

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Elements in Harmony I, an 8"f6 German Equatorial - Stellafane Winner,
II a 20"f4.2 Newt-Dob - Astrofest Winner,
III a 6"f3.5 Finder/Newt-Dob, and
IV a 36"f4.5 Newt-Dob - "If it's up there, it's in here."
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Ptarmigan
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: cnstarz]
      #2507277 - 07/08/08 09:30 PM

I am drooling at all the faint and obscure objects I want to see. I am green with envy.

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kcolter
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: Ptarmigan]
      #2604262 - 08/26/08 08:48 AM

Bob Kirschenmann and I had a great night under Missouri Dark skies last night and were able to see the Guitar Nebula as faint nebulosity. Bob knows the star field very well--I doubt I would have found it without his help. The 13(384X) and 8mm Ethos (625X) are an enormous help with a large undriven Dob. We also saw Pease 1, the tiny galaxy next to M57, and the galaxy group around NGC 7331. September traditionally brings our best combination of clear skies and steady seeing. I must admit that I expected to see nothing in the search for the Guitar under Midwest skies and was pleasantly surprised to see faint nebulosity.

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Steven Aggas
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: kcolter]
      #2604501 - 08/26/08 10:53 AM

Awesome!!! I knew there would be considerable interest in weird and unusual objects when I started this thread.

Good job!
Steven

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II a 20"f4.2 Newt-Dob - Astrofest Winner,
III a 6"f3.5 Finder/Newt-Dob, and
IV a 36"f4.5 Newt-Dob - "If it's up there, it's in here."
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OldDeadOne
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: Steven Aggas]
      #2604592 - 08/26/08 11:31 AM

Good lord,I'm going to have to have a much larger scope to hunt for most of this stuff that's been bandied about,gotta be a thrill to be able to see those things! I have a inadequate scope!

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Konig MX70 40mm" eyepiece
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Denis
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #2622984 - 09/04/08 08:17 AM

This one could be interesting for your 36"("If it's up there, it's in here.") :

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2615448/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/review.nebula1/

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Meade sc 4" on homemade fork equatorial mount.
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Steven Aggas
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: Denis]
      #2623421 - 09/04/08 12:11 PM

Thank you Denis, I will add it as number 89. At first I too thought it was a ghost image from a diametrically opposite star in the image I looked at, but that quickly changed when all the photos had it, and especially the one showing it as a teal colored Planetary....

Denis, pm me if or how you want your name to appear next to that suggested object on 'The Wizard's Challenge' link on the bottom of my homepage of the list of challenges derived from this CN thread.

Really nice suggestion.

Thanks,
Steven

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Elements in Harmony I, an 8"f6 German Equatorial - Stellafane Winner,
II a 20"f4.2 Newt-Dob - Astrofest Winner,
III a 6"f3.5 Finder/Newt-Dob, and
IV a 36"f4.5 Newt-Dob - "If it's up there, it's in here."
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F.Meiresonne
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: kcolter]
      #2623655 - 09/04/08 02:11 PM

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galaxy group around NGC 7331




Are you referring to the 'flees'? We saw some of them last Saturdaynight in the Netherlands. Transparency could have been better.
The nearby Stephan Quintet we saw too, 3 to 5 members were seen.

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tatarjj
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: Denis]
      #2624137 - 09/04/08 06:20 PM

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This one could be interesting for your 36"("If it's up there, it's in here.") :

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2615448/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/review.nebula1/




This object looks incredibly faint, and probably lies below the minumum detectable surface brightness limit of the human eye, meaning no visual observation in any scope. No hurt in trying though.

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Denis
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: tatarjj]
      #2625215 - 09/05/08 09:51 AM

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This one could be interesting for your 36"("If it's up there, it's in here.") :

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2615448/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/review.nebula1/


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This object looks incredibly faint, and probably lies below the minumum detectable surface brightness limit of the human eye, meaning no visual observation in any scope. No hurt in trying though.




As you say, no hurt in trying.
two night ago, I observe the area with my 14" and OIII and uhc-s filters and see nothing. Just some parts of the nearby nebulosities
But, the area can be observed easily and you found the star inside the ring structure easily and can figure the ring position very precisely , So perhaps with the good filter, and some very large telescope, someone would be able to see the brighter parts of the ring.

Steven, don't bother for my name on the list.
Just hope to see a report on this one trough your 36" when you'll observe the area

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David Knisely
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Re: Faint Target Observing List [Re: Steven Aggas]
      #2626675 - 09/06/08 01:11 AM

Try the faint wispy nebula Sh2-91 in Cygnus (R.A. 19h 39m 19.0s, Dec. +29 deg 56' 33"). I ran into this one by accident when trying for Minkowski's Footprint (Minkowski 1-92) while using Dragan Nikin's 25 inch f/5 Obsession at the Nebraska Star Party. It is only about 13 arc minutes south of Phi Cyg, so it isn't all that hard to find, although it is quite faint. In the 25 inch, it looked like a faint version of the "witches broom" in the Veil (NGC 6960), although it doesn't have the really broad end that the Veil's segment does. It is about 26 arc minutes in length but is fairly narrow. Some have identified it as a possible supernova remnant, although I have yet to see any mention of it as a SNR in the literature. Clear skies to you.

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tatarjj
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: David Knisely]
      #2629546 - 09/07/08 06:59 PM

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Try the faint wispy nebula Sh2-91 in Cygnus... Some have identified it as a possible supernova remnant, although I have yet to see any mention of it as a SNR in the literature. Clear skies to you.




It IS a supernova remnant, SNR 65.2+5.7. Sh2-94 and Sh2-96, to the north, are also part of SNR 65.2+5.7. Sh2-91 isn't that hard and can be picked up with medium aperture scopes at dark sites with OIII filtration. With my 18", I was able to the segment of Sh2-91 just south of Phi Cygni without too much difficulty, though I wouldn't class it as exactly a "bright" object. With my 25" last June in West Texas (NOT the TSP), I was able to see not only the segment of Sh2-91 south of Phi Cygni, but another section of Sh2-91 just NW of 9 Cygni. To the north, Sh2-94 was logged as "probable"- a faint arc was detected right at Sh2-94's position, but I can't be 100% sure it wasn't just a star chain. Hence, I logged it as "probable".

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David Knisely
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: tatarjj]
      #2630129 - 09/08/08 01:20 AM

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Try the faint wispy nebula Sh2-91 in Cygnus... Some have identified it as a possible supernova remnant, although I have yet to see any mention of it as a SNR in the literature. Clear skies to you.




It IS a supernova remnant, SNR 65.2+5.7. Sh2-94 and Sh2-96, to the north, are also part of SNR 65.2+5.7. Sh2-91 isn't that hard and can be picked up with medium aperture scopes at dark sites with OIII filtration. With my 18", I was able to the segment of Sh2-91 just south of Phi Cygni without too much difficulty, though I wouldn't class it as exactly a "bright" object. With my 25" last June in West Texas (NOT the TSP), I was able to see not only the segment of Sh2-91 south of Phi Cygni, but another section of Sh2-91 just NW of 9 Cygni. To the north, Sh2-94 was logged as "probable"- a faint arc was detected right at Sh2-94's position, but I can't be 100% sure it wasn't just a star chain. Hence, I logged it as "probable".




Well, I don't usually say something definitely is a supernova remnant unless I have firm documentation to back it up, so I had to qualify things. I recall the error some made a number of years ago in calling the Crescent Nebula an SNR (even made it into some books), so I didn't want to go out on a limb here. The catalog number (SNR G65.2+5.7) finally gave me enough to do a search on. However, when I tried to see the object again in my 9.25 inch SCT the other night, I failed to see anything other than the stars in the correct field. Conditions weren't optimal, but I suspect that the object will probably require something over a 12 inch to get much of a good look at it. Megastar missed it, but I put it in manually. It is now "stuck" there for all to see (a bug in the program keeps the filtering option for the secondary database objects non-functional, so they appear at all levels of zoom). Clear skies to you.

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reiner
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: tatarjj]
      #2630203 - 09/08/08 03:34 AM

Hi John,

interesting observation of Sh 2-91.

I had observed it many times with my 22" and the eastern portion is not difficult. With field sweeping, I could almost always trace the arc further to 9 Cyg and beyond, similar as in your observation.

The filaments of Sh 2-94, on the other hand, which are well visible even on the blue POSS, are much tougher and I never had a successfull observation either with OIII or H beta filters.

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Denis
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Re: Faint Target Observing List new [Re: reiner]
      #2641799 - 09/14/08 12:36 PM

Propeller nebula, dwb 111 would be a nice target.
I've seen sketch of this one with a 14"(and h beta filter) and only brighter parts were seen.
A 36" should show a real propeller

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