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asaint
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iOptron Mini Tower
      #2630476 - 09/08/08 10:18 AM

iOptron Mini Tower

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: asaint]
      #2630673 - 09/08/08 12:00 PM

Interesting review.
I would like to know if/how it will work with eq mode and how well it tracks.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Tapio]
      #2631121 - 09/08/08 04:07 PM

what is the noise level of this mount?

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: howard Lazerson]
      #2631214 - 09/08/08 05:04 PM

Quote:

what is the noise level of this mount?




Howard,

First of all, welcome to Cloudy Nights. I hope you enjoy this site and learn as much as I have.

Jeffrey said it is quiet in his review, but that is a very subjective term, especially if there is no reference level to compare. I have been told that it is not as quiet as my Atlas, but it is a little quieter than my old Celestron. I have not seen one in person yet, but hope to do so next week.

I hope that helps a little.

Ron


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: RAKing]
      #2631295 - 09/08/08 05:49 PM

Thanks Jeffrey. I'm gotten to the age where my LXD650 is a bit heavy for me. Based on your review I may have found a suitable replacement. Thanks for taking to time to test and post your findings.

CS,
Gary


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Gary]
      #2632103 - 09/09/08 05:01 AM

Excellent review! Might have to end up getting one.

Fred


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: kfred]
      #2632182 - 09/09/08 07:45 AM

Thanks for the nice review. It is very tempting.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: coopman]
      #2634020 - 09/10/08 12:26 AM

I own an ASGT (CG5) mount from Celestron.
This is just as easy to use and a whole lot more portable.
If visual observing is your interest..........this one's a winner!


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Starman1]
      #2634844 - 09/10/08 12:16 PM

What was the vibration level with each scope? Good, bad, ugly?
Thanks for the good review.
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: asaint]
      #2636929 - 09/11/08 01:11 PM

NICE job on the review Jeff!!! I have onwed one of these units now for a month and I have yet to experience any problems with mine. So far no matter what I hang on it, the mount seems to be able to handle the load. I'm even trying to figure out how I can place a 8" Newt on it and still clear the legs. I have found it to be quite acurate at goto and tracking as well. GPS seems to pick up in about 90 seconds and alignment takes me two more minutes. In under five minutes I am up and runing.

I run mine using an Celestron Power-Tank. It easily runs the entire weekend on one charge. If you start to get erratic behavior, it seems to get a bit wierd when the power is low, but that is easily diagnosed and fixed with a fresh charge.

Jeff Hineline


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Tapio]
      #2636931 - 09/11/08 01:12 PM

Although there is an EQ mode for this unit, ioOptron does not have an EQ tripod for it yet. That is expected to come out later this year.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: howard Lazerson]
      #2636932 - 09/11/08 01:13 PM

VERY low. Quiter than the LX200. I can't even hear the drive motors when tracking unless I place my ear against the mount


Jeff Hineline


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Great Red Spot]
      #2637453 - 09/11/08 06:45 PM

Wonderful review! The Mini is on my "must buy" list for sure!

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: BlueMoon]
      #2654623 - 09/21/08 11:27 AM

Can you tell me the size of the dovetail mount? This sounds like a wonderful option for those nights when one does not want to spend a lot of time setting up. I went to the OPTR sitre and they mention an increase of 50% of payload (?) with heavy duty excessories. Any idea what they are talking about? Thanks for a wonderful review.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: howard Lazerson]
      #2725273 - 10/29/08 07:39 PM

The noise level is minimal. When at local star parties it gets drowned out by CG5s and LXDs!

jhc


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Dave Ponder]
      #2725280 - 10/29/08 07:40 PM

I have no vibrations when using my Burgess 5" f/8.

jhc


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Tapio]
      #2725282 - 10/29/08 07:42 PM

My friend is working on an EQ wedge. It's not done yet so I don't know.

jhc


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: JimP]
      #2725284 - 10/29/08 07:43 PM

It uses the Vixen dovetail.

I think the options are the ones that come with it.

jhc


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: StarStruckCarter]
      #2725289 - 10/29/08 07:45 PM

I'm sorry to take so long to get back to everyone. I haven't had much time and then I lost my password. I'm still learning to use this system.

jhc


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Great Red Spot]
      #2725861 - 10/30/08 04:34 AM

Jeff, I appreciate your comments, and description of the GPS operation.

I received my MiniTower just the other day and had it out last night under perfectly clear skies here in West Palm Beach for nearly 11 hours. I had an observation plan, comparing a few cameras and wanted to use the iOptron's MiniTower first light with an older C8 - it is 25 years old.

However, I was never able to get the GPS to lock in. It showed "On" but never switched to "Ok".

I believe I set the hand controller up correctly. I did it about five times. I had another GPS running in the drive, connected to a KIWI OSD time insertion device that I use for location and time stamping video recorded occultations.

I wonder if the two could have interfered with each other? They were only five feet apart.

I love the size of the mount. It appears well made. I did use it to move a small refractor, Astro-Tech 66 mm APO, around the sky. But without the GPS lock (Ok), I was never able to use the tracking and GOTO features.

I will next try it with nothing else electrical turned on. Wish me luck.

Terry - W6LMJ


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2726021 - 10/30/08 08:46 AM

Had the same problem and Steve Forbes had me remove the top cover (square, 4 small screws) where you will find the GPS unit. There is a small brass push on connector there. I gave mine a small snugging turn to reseat it and have had no problems since. Seems to be a small problem they are working on, since it is able to work loose in transit.
Excellent mount and the GPS is very strong.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2727413 - 10/30/08 10:55 PM

iOptron has formally announced that there will be NO wedge for the MiniTower, and that it is NOT suitable for long-exposure astrophotography:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ioptron/message/2054

I'm sure this will disappoint some folks...


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Covey32]
      #2727696 - 10/31/08 06:29 AM

Thank you for the feedback. I am going out to try that now - before the sun comes up. I wonder if I will be able to use this mount for occultations?

Terry - W6LMJ


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2727727 - 10/31/08 07:13 AM

That did it. I went out with a small phillips and removed the four long screws from the top plate. The I removed the square plastic plate from the top and inspected the square GPS unit. All appeared well, and properly seated. However, using the screw driver for leverage, I was able to apply a little pressure to each connector. They didn't appear to move. However, when I turned the mount on the GPS almost immediately switched from On to Okay. Prefect.

Thanks for the help.

Terry - W6LMJ


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2727844 - 10/31/08 08:58 AM

Exactly what mine did...glad to help.
They really NEED to improve that connection up there.
Very easy to dislodge during shipping !


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Covey32]
      #2727955 - 10/31/08 10:18 AM

I am new to the hobby. How would the Mini Tower work with a 34 inch 10 lb refractor? Would the scope hit the tripod when pointed straight up? How tall is the mount W/the tripod extended? Thanks for the help/advice.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Kirkup]
      #2728479 - 10/31/08 03:12 PM

With the tripod legs fully extended, the center point of the dovetail mount is around 54 inches above the ground, so it should be just fine.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Covey32]
      #2728925 - 10/31/08 08:54 PM

Thanks Hank. I don't want to make a very expensive mistake.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Kirkup]
      #2733579 - 11/03/08 07:50 PM

Do you guys think that this mount can handle a Takahashi CN212? the OTA weighs 18.7lbs and it is 33.7" long.
Probably with the clamshell and diagonal it is going to weigh 25lbs.

Anyone can help me on this?


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2734439 - 11/04/08 10:35 AM

Terry

This is a minor known issue with the MiniTower caused when shipping the units from over-seas, and is easily repaired. Remove the square cover at the top of the unit to reveal the GPS antenna PCB. Make sure that the connectors are tight. There are two of them. One is a four pin connector and the other is a mini-coaxial connctor. Use a pair of needle nose pliers to tighten but not over tighten the coxial connector. Firmly push down on the other connector to seat it in the socket. That will fix the issue 90% of the time.

If that does not fix the problem, then you may need to reseat the conector on the controller PCB inside the tower. First unscrew the Alt locking knob all of the way. Remove the screws holding the cover over, which will reveal the controller PCB. Trace the wiring harness down the side from the GPS antenna PCB to the connector on the controller PCB. Reseat that connector being carful not to disturb the opical encoders for the ALT drive gears. That will fix the problem 99% of the time.

I have seen a few units with the problem you describe and by following these steps I was able to repair each one in under 20 minutes. Once done, the GPS synched in about 90 seconds for each unit. If that does not work, give me a call and I will see if there is anything more I can do to help.

Jeff


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2734677 - 11/04/08 12:45 PM

Terry

This is really a simple fix. The GPS connectors sometimes get loose during shipment. First remove the square top cover. You will see the GPS board. Make sure the four pin connector is firmly seated in the socket. With a pair of needle-nose pliers, make sure the mini-coax connector for the antenna is tight, but not over tight. Once you complete this, start up the MiniTower again. GPS should sync and go to GPS OK in no more than three minutes, usually less than 90 seconds.

If that does not work, then fully unscrew the ALT knob. Then remove the screws holding the cover, to expose the controller PCB. Then tracing the wiring harness from the GPS board down to the controller board, locate the end of the GPS wiring harness on the controller board. Being careful not to move the ALT encoder, make sure the wiring harness from the GPS board is fully seated on the controller PCB.

99% of the time this will fix the issue and you will be up and running. If this does not work, give me a call and I will try to help you further.

Jeff Hineline


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Great Red Spot]
      #2735973 - 11/05/08 08:12 AM

The Mini Tower is working fine now. I have had it out twice since the fix, and the GPS is quick and accurate.

I mounted a C8 on it last night. This is my oldest scope. It started life on a wooden tripod with no electric drive. I use to use it in Panama for star parties. Indeed, Carl Sagan had his first view of Halley's Comet through this C8. Anyway, I attached a Vixen mounting plate, and mounted the scope on the close in mounting point on the Mini Tower, on the opposite side from the counter weight. This scope is very easy to balance. I did the one star simple alignment and used a 25 mm Plossel. After the initial alignment I was able to goto every selected object with no problem at all.

A very nice experience.

Terry - W6LMJ


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #2739926 - 11/07/08 02:21 PM

Have experimented with this mount over the last two days and have the following comments:

This is a very good mechanical design. The altitude bearing is smooth and heavy duty. The azimuth bearing appears to work very well also, tolerating a bit of off balance, allowing small telescopes to be used without a counterweight. For a mass produced instrument this is one of the best mechanically.

The levelling screws are a good idea, reasonably well implemented. Anyone who has used a surveyor's transit or total station knows, however, that FOUR screws are far better than THREE, allowing you to level in two directions at right angles to each other, making the task far easier. Still, it is nice to see a company finally making the effort to provide a levelling feature.

The GOTO system with built in GPS works very well. Advertised pointing accurcy of 1 arc minute is a bit over-enthusiastic, but I would say this mount achieves 5 arc minute accuracy 100% of the time, which is quite good. If you level the mount accurately, the one star alignment works fine.

The GOTONOVA system has the advantage of a large display showing many lines of data at once. However, functionally it is not nearly as elegant as Celestron or Meade's on mounts of comparable price and quality. A lot of button pushing is required to go deep into the menu, with no "shortcut keys" available on the handpad.

The ASCOM driver for this sytem works OK with SkyMap Pro, but I have not been able to use it with ACP Observatory control software. I found some workarounds using the Astro-Physics ASCOM driver, which appears to have been cloned for the GOTONOVA system. Hopefully the driver will be revised in future.

Maximum slew rate is about 3.8 degrees per second, which, sadly, is becoming the standard for these types of mounts. I really miss the 6 degrees per second of the old Nexstar single arm mounts. A slew of 180 degrees in azimuth tries my patience somewhat, especially when there is no good reason for not making a faster speed available.

Balance in altitude is somewhat critical. I got an error message stating that the motor was "over current" with my telescope slightly off balance. Balance in azimuth does not appear to be nearly as critical. This may be an issue when switching eyepieces with heavy Naglers and very light short focus eyepieces on a refractor (or switching to a binoviewer).

While this mount works well as a GOTO system, the real tragedy of this design is that it COULD work equally well as a manual "just push it around" alt-azimuth, like the Stellarvue M7, but the encoders appear to be integral to the motors, so when you loosen the clutches and push alignment is lost. If the encoders were separated from the gears, this would be a nearly ideal digital setting circle manual mount at a bargain price. One of the great joys of visual observing for me is to sweep through the Milky Way, "discovering" objects visually, THEN looking them up. A simple glance to the computer screen with a planetarium software connected to a mount with digital setting circles is a great technological advance that, unfortunately, is not available with this mount UNLESS you use the motors only.

In summary, this mount represents a big step forward in a mass produced instrument, but is not perfect. Mechanically, though, for the price it is built like a brick outhouse.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: StarStruckCarter]
      #2763051 - 11/21/08 12:15 PM

Have you used binoviewers with it? I am trying to determine would this give me more stability than my nexstar 8se single arm mount? Your thoughts?

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Great Red Spot]
      #3146202 - 06/04/09 07:27 PM

Thanks Jeff for your detail explanation. It now works for me

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: asaint]
      #3479337 - 12/02/09 10:24 AM

Purchased a mini-Tower from ADORAMA two weeks ago. Second time out using batteries it blew a fuse. Spoke with Steve Forbes today who was super supportive and said they would take care of the repairs/exchange at their cost. I intend to use it with my Vixen VMC 200L. It's nice to know that the folks at i-OPTRON are consumer concerned and vested in helping out folks who happend to get a lemmon.

Mike Anderer
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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: mikester]
      #3479453 - 12/02/09 11:39 AM

Mike, Good to hear that Steve Forbes is helping you out. He is very knowledgeable about MiniTowers. I am getting an almost new MiniTower that has Steve's Timken bearing upgrade. It should be very accurate and better yet, very smooth. He rescued a faulty MiniTower of a friend while visiting Florida for a starparty and Steve drove up from South Florida where he was visiting family and repaired my friend's mount that night! Can't get much better service than that<g>. Bob

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Bob S.]
      #3531616 - 12/31/09 01:56 PM

Guys, I'm a bit confused regarding using the iOptron Mini Tower in an imaging setup. Although I'm not currently doing any imaging, I was wondering why iOptron has stated this unit is not satisfactory for long exposure astrophotography.

Maybe it's my 'newbie' status in this area, but I would think if the GoTo is accurate and tracks the selected object well, why would it not be suitable for imaging? Is is accuracy or load capacity?


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Ken Ross]
      #3531702 - 12/31/09 02:40 PM

The mini-tower is an alt-azimuth mount. Any imaging done with an alt-azimuth mount shows image rotation in shots longer than about 1 minute.
You could composite a dozen 1 minute shots to give a deep-sky shot, but in general alt-azimuth mounts are not used for astrophotography.
And so far, there is no wedge to convert the mount to an equatorial mount.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Starman1]
      #3531978 - 12/31/09 04:53 PM

Thanks Don, makes sense. Seems like a really nice mount other than for imaging.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #3576463 - 01/22/10 07:35 AM

Quote:

Jeff, I appreciate your comments, and description of the GPS operation.

I received my MiniTower just the other day and had it out last night under perfectly clear skies here in West Palm Beach for nearly 11 hours. I had an observation plan, comparing a few cameras and wanted to use the iOptron's MiniTower first light with an older C8 - it is 25 years old.

However, I was never able to get the GPS to lock in. It showed "On" but never switched to "Ok".

I believe I set the hand controller up correctly. I did it about five times. I had another GPS running in the drive, connected to a KIWI OSD time insertion device that I use for location and time stamping video recorded occultations.

I wonder if the two could have interfered with each other? They were only five feet apart.

I love the size of the mount. It appears well made. I did use it to move a small refractor, Astro-Tech 66 mm APO, around the sky. But without the GPS lock (Ok), I was never able to use the tracking and GOTO features.

I will next try it with nothing else electrical turned on. Wish me luck.

Terry - W6LMJ




Hi

I'm planning on trading my Vixen Sphinx SXW EQ mount (the only EQ mount I like) for the NEW Mini Tower PRO that just came out. In the meantime I had a Cube G with me for a couple of days before a friend bought it from me. Anyway, this to say that with the GPS on the cube I had the same problem. GPS ON showed up but after 5 minutes the GPS OK message didn't show up yet. So I just punched in the Lat/long coordinates...and the GPS seemed to wake up and went on to GPS OK!!! It worked perfectly after that.

cheers.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Terry - W6LMJ]
      #4086533 - 10/01/10 07:34 PM

I have an old Orion Astroview 90mm refractor and have been thinking about buying one of these. The gps would be nice, because I'm not a big fan of equitorial mounts. I'm not sure the Orion rings would work with this, but I intend to find out.

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: MikeM6]
      #4087266 - 10/02/10 08:21 AM

Mike-
The iOptron M/T accepts a regular Vixen-style dovetail. It'd handle your 90mm without breaking a sweat.


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Wes James]
      #4087400 - 10/02/10 10:21 AM

Cool! Then I could buy a 6" Mak OTA for the other side. I like the idea of GPS, so the mount knows when and where it is - relative to my location. Is there any tweaking involved?

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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: MikeM6]
      #4087490 - 10/02/10 11:18 AM

Mike-
There's 2 MiniTowers... the Standard- and the Pro. The tripod on the standard is its achilles heel... it's flimsy, especially if you want to put a 2nd scope on the other side. The Pro tripod sells seperately for $150.00, and is a great investment if you go with the standard. Then there is the version turbocharged by Steve Forbes. I have one, (on a Berlebach tripod) and its superb. Others also very happy with theirs on the pro tripod. Steve uses his on an Atlas tripod. Requires a bit of a mod (milling off the leg brackets) to attach to other tripods other than the Pro.
Then there is the Pro. Comes with the good tripod, but there still remains a few software issues with it. Steve is also doing a turbo version of that.
If you're interested in a MiniTower, I would recommend you join the Yahoo iOptron Mini Tower group- Mini_Tower. You can read about the problems that people have had, solutions, and about those who are very happy with their mods. Probably the best mount is the standard, turbocharged by Steve, on the Pro tripod. Not an inexpensive setup, but worth it.
edit: BTW, I have the iOptron 152 Mak- a superb scope... I had it on the M/T with my 100mm f/13 Carton one night- would have definitely been an overload on the standard tripod.
The reasons I recommend Steve's going through the mount and his upgrades, is that besides lapping the gears, improved, very high quality bearings, he knows all the tweaks and problem areas. He runs the mounts for hours, targeting about 20 different objects- to ensure the mount performs as it should, and so when you get it, you have a much better shot at a great mount than you do with iOptron's sometimes-iffy Q/A.
Wes

Edited by Wes James (10/02/10 11:22 AM)


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Re: iOptron Mini Tower new [Re: Wes James]
      #4088615 - 10/02/10 09:03 PM

Does anyone have experience using the MiniTower/Pro for public star parties, outreach, group instruction, etc.? I am thinking of using one with a C8 and WO 80 apo mounted in tandem. Any thoughts on that?

Also, I see no one seems to have had the same problems (except with loose GPS connections) that John Cameron did with his rather unfavorable review of the mount here on Cloudy Nights. Did he just have a lemon?

Thanks,
Ira


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