· Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu… uh, User You are not logged in. [Login] Entrance · Main Index · Search · New user · Who's Online FAQ · Calendar Speciality Forums >> Space Rocks Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Pages: 1 zagami professor emeritus Reged: 08/22/08 Loc: The Big Sky I. M. Chait Natural History Auction: Meteorites       #2645877 - 09/16/08 03:57 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi All, There will be a major natural history auction on September 21st that will contain some showpiece meteorites. Here is a link to the auction listing: http://tinyurl.com/6zzbvt The meteorite lots are numbers 216 through 236. I noticed that of the 20 meteorites offered, only one, Ningqiang, is a witnessed fall. And only 25 years old at that. Post Extras:       stelenes member Reged: 08/14/08 Re: I. M. Chait Natural History Auction: Meteorites [Re: zagami]       #2747860 - 11/12/08 10:53 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hello Martin, Did you see how much the Chinese piece you mentioned sold for? BTW, Iron meteorites sometimes get no respect in mixed company, but witnesses tend to remember them more, especially when they feel the burst, than a piddly pebble that was tossed near a clueless medieval peasant. :-). Sikhote, also a witnessed fall in that auction, had quite a few astonished observers and is an all-time favorite to scientists and collectors alike, not to mention artists and stamp collectors: http://rg.ancients.info/objects/stamp.html http://www.arm.ac.uk/paseg/Sikhote-Alin-1947.jpg There is enough evidence to consider Campo a witnessed fall also, though for purely cultural bias it is denied recognition as such. Post Extras:       zagami professor emeritus Reged: 08/22/08 Loc: The Big Sky Re: I. M. Chait Natural History Auction: Meteorite [Re: stelenes]       #2748225 - 11/12/08 02:50 PM Attachment (45 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi, I think I saw the auction results but that was a while ago. Yes S-A is a fall. My mistake. I think there are actually many more meteorites that were witnessed to fall, but are not considered as such. I call such things Finds2Falls. A few others include Canyon Diablo (it is referenced in Indian lore), Goalpara, Greenwell Springs, Campo (as you mentioned), Tsarev, Binda, Changxing (because of a mistake in the first published account that has since been corrected), and Souslovo. Of course the opposite is true with many meteorites that are considered falls, not because anyone saw or heard it, but because of the acute damage or evidence it created upon landing. I think there is a tendency to err on the side of a find, although the collecting community, myself included, is trying to change that by listing the facts of the event rather than which box to check in a database. For it is really only us, the collectors, who suffer if a fall is really a find. Below is an enhanced pic of a cartoon of a giant meteorite (possibly Tsarev) that appeared in a local newspaper. Post Extras:       Pages: 1 Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 0 registered and 3 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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