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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: deisi]
      #1545890 - 04/15/07 02:19 PM

No doubts, Atlas Of The Moon by Antonin Rukl. The details provided are excellent and the maps are exquisite. IMHO it's the best out there.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: lunartic65]
      #1546534 - 04/15/07 08:47 PM

i have "new atlas of the moon" by legault/brunier
really nice book.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: deisi]
      #1551157 - 04/18/07 04:42 AM

I use the Hatfield Photographic Lunar Atlas by Springer ISBN 1-85233-018-x taken by colleague Henry Hatfield with his 12" Newt awhile back!

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: nytecam]
      #1552091 - 04/18/07 03:33 PM

I know there are a lot of people out there who turn their noses up at the Hatfield Atlas, but I've found it to be enormously useful as a suppliment to Rukl's. Those old photos so often match the view under the lighting regime as it exists on a given night, while Rukl's cannot take such changes into consideration. The strengths of these two books are quite complimentary.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: desertstars]
      #2118099 - 01/13/08 06:04 PM

Since Antonín Rükl's Atlas of the Moon is out of print for a while now (and there is no news on reprinting it), I'm trying to convince myself to find a good alternative.

Which atlas would be a "second best" in this perspective?

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Olivier Biot]
      #2118159 - 01/13/08 06:33 PM

While the prices of used Rukls skyrocketed in the period just before the reprinting, I think you can still lay your hands on a reasonably price copy today. The Hatfield Atlas was the fall-back position for many observers, and honestly, I really like it for scope-side use. It has been re-issued recently in a mirror image format that makes it even more user friendly for SCT users and others needing that orientation.

For as much as Rukl's is the time-honored classic and so sought after, it's certainly not the last word in lunar atlases. Indeed, the lunar enthusiasts usually end up with a whole shelf of books and maps because no one of them is perfect.

If you can get a reasonably priced Rukl's, go for it. If not, get a Hatfield. I certainly wouldn't pay the prices they were asking at one time.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Tim2723]
      #2119054 - 01/14/08 05:48 AM

"Since Antonín Rükl's Atlas of the Moon is out of print for a while now (and there is no news on reprinting it)"

Hmm, no reprinting news? So i am not the only one in the dark. When i first discovered that rukl's was out-of-print (last summer?) and posted about it here someone from S&T spoke up saying it was definitely being reprinted, "not to worry"... wonder what happened?

rukl's gone, quads gone. (saw a set of the latter going for 50$ on astromart recently...) That leaves Hatfield's (earth perspective) and Clementine (spacecraft perspective) atlases (that include lettered craters anyway) as all that is still in print, no? Getting to be slim pickins!!

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: photonovore]
      #2119504 - 01/14/08 11:39 AM

I just sent their customer service people an email about it. Been meaning to do so for a while. I'll pass along whatever response I receive.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: desertstars]
      #2119557 - 01/14/08 12:03 PM

I just hope we don't see a recurance of the Rukl's madness from a couple of years back. Remember? $600 a copy, people stealing from libraries, hot copies on Ebay.

Forunately, there are still the computer-based resources for the detailed study, but those aren't really atlases either.

I'm really surprized that the quads went OOP. I thought they were a fairly popular item from Sky. Then again, mine look like they were printed a while ago. I wonder how many printings there were for those?

BTW, has anyone been in touch with Dan? He usually has his finger pretty well on the pulse of things.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Tim2723]
      #2119725 - 01/14/08 01:07 PM

The word from Sky Publishing's customer service people is not good. There are no plans to reprint the atlas at this time.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Tom L]
      #2120347 - 01/14/08 05:45 PM

FWIW - I enjoyed "Observing the Moon" by Gerald North much better than Woods book. The whole second half of the book is just amazing with unique and fun things to watch for. Just like no two nights are the same with DSO's, North presents a solid case of coming back again and again to certain features and witness the changing face that shadows play on our neighbor.

And of course Rukl.
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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: skypilgrim]
      #2120452 - 01/14/08 06:30 PM

Thanks all for your replies so far

It's a pity Rükl's book is not scheduled for reprint in the near future. I however keep watching for a good lunar atlas

Cheers!

Olivier

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Olivier Biot]
      #2120667 - 01/14/08 07:56 PM

I like these:

The Modern Moon: A Personal View, by Charles A. Wood

The Clementine Atlas of the moon, by Bussey & spudis

Lunar orbiter Photographic Atlas of the near side of the Moon, by Byrne

LAC Lunar Chart (I download the individual charts and print them in DIN A3 -actually two DIN A4 in opossite pages and spyral bounded-
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/mapcatalog/


Lunar domes chart, based on the University of Arizona Lunar Quadrant Maps (Thanks, Carol_L!!!)
http://www.glrgroup.org/domes/lunardomes.htm

And, of course, the Virtual Atlas of the Moon. Always in my laptop.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Arbacia]
      #2120690 - 01/14/08 08:07 PM

I don't believe the new Byrne atlas has been reviewed here (or have I missed it?), and I haven't gotten around to buying one personally. Arbacia, perhaps you could give us your impressions of it? If you, or another user, would like to present a review, we could add it to our Lunar Bibliography.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Tim2723]
      #2120825 - 01/14/08 09:04 PM

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The word from Sky Publishing's customer service people is not good. There are no plans to reprint the atlas at this time.



My 1996 Kalmbach edition should be worth at least $1000 this time around!

(Not for sale, though.. you just can't put a price on some things. )

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Lunar domes chart, based on the University of Arizona Lunar Quadrant Maps (Thanks, Carol_L!!!)



You're welcome, Arbacia!

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: Carol L]
      #2127969 - 01/17/08 10:21 PM Attachment (17 downloads)

I am glad I kept this 1978 reprint.

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: SabiaJD]
      #2127984 - 01/17/08 10:24 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

By this author

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: SabiaJD]
      #2127985 - 01/17/08 10:27 PM Attachment (19 downloads)

Does it look familar?

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: SabiaJD]
      #2530421 - 07/20/08 04:38 PM

OK, that's just cruel! I have the 1996 Kalmback edition -- which is great -- but I think I seriously covet the Hamlyn version. Have I sinned?

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Re: Which Lunar Atlas Would You Choose? new [Re: SabiaJD]
      #2530710 - 07/20/08 07:41 PM

I have that 1978 reprint too, along with both the Astronomy and Sky Pub versions. I use the Astronomy version out in the field, to keep the Sky version from getting trashed. Also have Wood, North, Hatfield and Dinsmore Alter's Pictoral Guide to the Moon. Several other atlases and lunar cartography books are in the library, but not on the active observing bookshelves.

Use Rukl the most, and never observe the moon without it tucked into my book bag. It has just enougd facts to answer most peoples questions without having to wade through text. But I've never met a lunar book I didn't like and use.

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