GLR GROUP
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Hi to everybody!
I have an incredible news!
The owner of General hi-t, here in Italy, has informed me that there is a new binoculars of 150mm with the possibility of using astronomical eyepieces of 2"!!
At present I have no other information about the technical specification, price and more.
I'll give you the technical specifications of the GHT 150 as soon possible
I have published a preview image on my website.www.binomania.it
You can see the photo here:
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Best Regards from Italy
Piergiovanni
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Mark9473
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They look absolutely stunning! Looking forward to a lot more information and especially the price.
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Mark
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edwincjones
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they also look a lot like the miyauchi clones of their 100mms
I hope that the optics equal or better the big fujis with lighter weight and cost.
edj
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Joe Ogiba
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Pentax PF-80ED,Meade 102ED APO,Orion EON 72,120ST
Apex 127,C6 XLT,CR150,C9.25,XT10
Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom
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Nick Lloyd
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thanks joe
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Mike Rapchak
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Many thanks for the alert, Pier! Please keep us informed of further news, if/when you get any. I wonder how much these will cost? 
Mike Rapchak Jr.
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CESDewar
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I hope that the optics equal or better the big fujis with lighter weight and cost.
Well at 46 lbs, they aren't going to help much in the weight department!
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Edited by CESDewar (09/22/08 01:26 AM)
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GLR GROUP
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Hello Guys, I entered the technical data on my website. Unfortunately I don't know yet the purchase price, but I can make these calculations:
In Italy the GHT 23-41x100 cost 900 euro
The 120mm cost 1600 euros
I think that the GHT 150 "could cost" over 3000 euros. (3500-4000?)
There are only suppositions..i am sorry
I know only that the purchase price should include the three pairs of eyepieces by 2 inches and a mounting bracket with a tripod.
There is only a problem:I have to test the quality of this instrument. 
I do not know if the optics are achromatic, ED or other
Obviously i am very curious to observe the double cluster in Perseus at 30X with a bigbino of 150mm with 72 ° AFOV...wow!
Best Regards from Italy
Pier
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[url] www.binomania.it [/url] you can find many binoculars reviews!
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Mr. Bill
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I do not know if the optics are achromatic, ED or other
Pier
Uhhh, yeah, ED I'm sure.
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10x50 Fujinon binos + 16x70 Fujinon binos + UA UniMount
Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery "Galactic Cannon"
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Joe Ogiba
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Chinese BT-150's
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Pentax PF-80ED,Meade 102ED APO,Orion EON 72,120ST
Apex 127,C6 XLT,CR150,C9.25,XT10
Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom
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edwincjones
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Since the miyauchi 141s are apparently no longer being made,
the 150mm fujis need some competition
I hope that these do it, but we will see.
If they are heavier than the fujis, more expensive than the fujis, they need to be better opticially.
edj
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CESDewar
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Well they are about twice the weight of the Miyauchi 141's, so no competition in that department. Optically, they are unlikely to be as good, but they will be less than half the price.
They are about the same weight as the Fuji's but quite a bit less expensive, and probably not as good optically, however, with interchangeable EP's and 45° viewing, they will pose very good competition!
All in all, I think they will prove to be exciting, although more so for people who can permanently mount them. At some 46lbs for just the OTA, this is not exactly a Grab&Go 
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edwincjones
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Well they are about twice the weight of the Miyauchi 141's, so no competition in that department. Optically, they are unlikely to be as good, but they will be less than half the price.
They are about the same weight as the Fuji's but quite a bit less expensive, and probably not as good optically, however, with interchangeable EP's and 45° viewing, they will pose very good competition!
All in all, I think they will prove to be exciting, although more so for people who can permanently mount them. At some 46lbs for just the OTA, this is not exactly a Grab&Go
in effect-a BT 45-150 ?
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Mr. Bill
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Looks like about f/5.4.....with 24mm Pan it would give 34x, afov of 2 degrees, and an exit pupil of about 4.3mm.
Will contact Kevin B and see what's up.
Edited by Mr. Bill (09/23/08 01:05 PM)
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Mr. Bill
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Chinese BT-150's
My Chinese is a little weak...
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10x50 Fujinon binos + 16x70 Fujinon binos + UA UniMount
Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery "Galactic Cannon"
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richard7
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Chinese bt150's translation
(Boy, aren't computers neat.)
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Richard Trost
Orion 130st, Ioptron e/r80
Meade 10x50, Konusvue 20x80, Zhumell Tachiyon 25x100
Coffee thermos and cup
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Mr. Bill
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A few general comments....
I will bet that the eps supplied with this will not be all that great...the ones supplied with my BT100s are pretty poor in terms of edge correction and eye relief. When I substituted the 24 Pans, it really made the BTs perform up to their potential.
Three sets of mediocre eps are no match for one set of superior ones. The cost of 3 sets of 2 inch Naglers would be roughly 3/4s of the cost of these binoculars (if they are $4k US), so consider that in terms of the probable quality of the supplied eps.
The other point is ergonomics...if you have a narrow IPD and a fat nose bridge, you may not be able to use the supplied eps or for that matter after market 2 inch such as Naglers. I have a IPD of 65-66mm and a medium nose bridge and was JUST able to accommodate the Fuji 150s whose eps appeared to be less than 2 inches.
I would hope that these would be offered without eps but with the fork, but doubt if that would be an option.
Just got a reply from Kevin B. of Big Binocular. Here is his input(with his permission)....
"That's from the factory that makes the Miyauchi clones (not our factory). So I really don't know anything, not even sure if it's a real product yet. I'm trying to find out more... I've also seen the pics of the other 150mm on some of the Chinese websites, but that product doesn't exist even as a prototype."
So these are NOT "big brothers" of the BT100s and BT120s.
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10x50 Fujinon binos + 16x70 Fujinon binos + UA UniMount
Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery "Galactic Cannon"
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Edited by Mr. Bill (09/24/08 10:25 AM)
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Wes James
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Here's another player in the big bino field. Not sure who these are made by/if they are the same as the other clones- I would assume they are?
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Wes
Atlantic Beach, FL
Some bino’s from Miyauchi 5x32 Binon's up through Garrett 20x110 Signature's,
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Joe Ogiba
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Wes, that looks like a Tokyo distributor of Chinese binoculars.
Joe
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Pentax PF-80ED,Meade 102ED APO,Orion EON 72,120ST
Apex 127,C6 XLT,CR150,C9.25,XT10
Zeiss 7x42 FL,Canon 10x42L IS WP,15x50 IS
12x36 IS II
Garrett Optical 28x110 HD-WP Signature Series
Oberwerk BT-80 45, Apogee RA-88-SA
Denk II Power x Switch binoviewer w/13mm Ethos, 20mm Pentax XW's, 20mm Widescan III's.
17mm Ethos, 22mm Nagler, 40mm Pentax XW, 14mm Pentax XL, 5.2mm Pentax XL, 8-24mm Pentax XL Zoom
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Erik D
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The link provided by Wes led to Kasai Trading of Tokyo Japan. Looks like a Japanese trading company marketing Chinese binos.
I was very excited when I first saw the title of the thread of a New 150mm binocular by Pier and the link to the nice photo. Then I read a bit more in detail and I was less so. My thoughts:
21 kg is over 46 lbs. Much heavier than the 28 lb BT100/45 deg or the BT 120 at 35 lbs. I would want to be able to view at higher power than 25X, 30X and 35X if I am going to haul a 46 lb bino around. The Miyauchi 141mm was a very appealing set up because OTA wt was 26 lbs with 45 deg EPs. IMO much more user friendly than the Fuji 25X150.
I have used the 100mm Miyauchii Saturn III(with 39& 54X EPs) and my friend's 25/40X100mm 45 deg APM (Miyauchi clone). My experience is 13-16 lb giant binos are about the limit for a grab and go set-up. I can carry the 13 lb/29 inch Saturn III OTA in one hand and my Bogen 3246 tripod/516 head in the other and go out the door in one trip. Anything bigger with longer setup time and I'd use it less. A lot less.
My most used astro bino system since 2003 remains a pair of 20X80 LWs mounted on Bogen 501 fluid head and 3211 tripod. Total wt is 13.5 lbs with the binos mounted. I grab the whole set- up in one hand and go out the door with tripod legs extended.
If this is the same company making the APM 25/40X100 Miyauchi clone they will have to improve the EP holding arrangement. My friend's APM EPs are held in place with two very thin rubber O rings. They broke the 2nd time he swapped EPs. Those tiny O rings are impossible to find. He had to purchase O rings of a different size and trim them to fit. A poor design if you want to maintain critical collimation at 40X.
Miyauchi Saturn II & III EPs have a positive twist lock arrangement. APFOV is 66 deg. Stars are sharp to ~90%+ from center. Much sharper than my Japanese 20X80, 25X100 bino or the Chinese 20X80 LW. Excellent contrast. I would not be surprised if the Miyauchi EPs perform as well as a pair of TV Panoptics in a side-by-side test.
Erik D
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