clayton_wc
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Reged: 07/16/09
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My order, #2175, arrived yesterday and I eagerly put it together, er tried to...
I've yet to get a distant image to show up clearly. The only thing I've had magnification on are items 10 to 15 feet away...directions do leave out information. The no word, graphic instructions are better.
The focus is brutal and I suspect some lubrication is in order. My focus tube will infact come misaligned in the process of trying to move it in and out.
I'm afraid it is just me, but I can't get the damn thing to work satisfactorly...dispite multiple attempts at proper placement of the tiny glass, er plastic, lenses...If someone has figured this out and can give me some easy steps to make sure the lenses are correct for the mangifcation portions I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
-cjd
Clayton
SF Bay Area
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Zoeff
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Reged: 06/10/09
Posts: 252
Loc: Haarlem, Netherlands
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I actually just noticed that the pictorial instruction has a contradiction with two others that are online.
http://unawe.org/joomla/images/materials/instruments/galileoscope.pdf
This one says that the thinner lens needs to face the thicker part of the clam shell. However, these two:
http://www.pl.euhou.net/docupload/files/Tools/Optical_telescopes/Galileoscope/AssemblyInstruction/GalileoscopeAssemblyInstructionsv4.pdf
https://www.galileoscope.org/gs/sites/galileoscope.org.gs/files/Galileoscope-Instructions-20090710rtf.pdf
Will tell you to place the thinner lens at the thinner part of the clam shell.
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Telescopes: NexStar 8SE, 90ED f/5.5 doublet, Galileoscope
Accessories: Hyperion 36mm, GSO 32mm, E-lux 25mm, Hyperion 8mm,
DBK 41AU02.AS, 2x Barlow, 0.63x Focal Reducer, Solar Filter, UHC Filter
My (astro-)photos can be found on flickr.
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GregAlt
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Reged: 06/23/09
Posts: 30
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
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Is it possible you were confusing the 18x galilean eyepiece configuration with the 25x standard configuration? It sounds like the the 18x configuration is meant only as a historical/educational example and not meant for general use.
From my reading of the picture-only instructions from unawe, picture 45 is for the 18x - look at picture 30 and picture 43, where it calls out the two different configurations.
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Orion XT8i - 8" f/5.9
Nikon Action 10x50 Binoculars
Galileoscope 50mm f/10 (20mm ep + 2x barlow)
25mm, 10mm Sirius Plossl eyepieces (1.25")
12.5mm Black Knight OWL Super Plossl
2x Knight OWL Barlow
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Zoeff
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Reged: 06/10/09
Posts: 252
Loc: Haarlem, Netherlands
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Having looked at the 3 instrucstions again, I realized that I indeed misunderstood something but it was in the 2 others that include text. Reading "Be sure the lens that is thin in the middle faces the narrow/bottom of the barrel, as shown at left." I thought they meant thin looking at them from the side, not thin in the very center of the lens.
Now all 3 instructions agree. In short, you have to place them in the order and orientation you can see the most clearly on picture 45 of the pictorial. 
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Telescopes: NexStar 8SE, 90ED f/5.5 doublet, Galileoscope
Accessories: Hyperion 36mm, GSO 32mm, E-lux 25mm, Hyperion 8mm,
DBK 41AU02.AS, 2x Barlow, 0.63x Focal Reducer, Solar Filter, UHC Filter
My (astro-)photos can be found on flickr.
Edited by Zoeff (07/16/09 05:07 PM)
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Elias_Jordan
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Reged: 12/26/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Derby, Kansas
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Just bought a Galileoscope at Griffith Obs. Couldn't wait until I got home. So now I tried imaging, again. And here is my result of Jupiter!
To see what the moon looks like either go back on the forum, or check out my flickr, galileoscope album: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliasjordan/sets/72157621466909709/
more photo info: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eliasjordan/3728336549/
I will be posting a whole bunch of photo through the scope soon, I am even making a galileoscope astrophotograpy manual and a special adapter to make the photography better!
All the best,
Elias Jordan
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PiperKev
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Reged: 12/19/06
Posts: 161
Loc: Grafton, OH
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Nice, Elias!! Not bad for a $15 scope, eh?
Cheers,
Kevin
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Orion SkyQuest XT6 Classic
Sears 4-6333 60mm f/15 refractor
50mm f/10 "Galileoscope" refractor w/Daisy Electronic Point Sight finder
TeleVue Plossls: 32mm, 11mm
Orion Sirius Plossls: 25mm, 20mm, 10mm
Astro-Tech Paradigm 15mm
Celestron Ultima 2x barlow
Orion LaserMate Deluxe + Meade 126 2x barlow
Telrad
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Elias_Jordan
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Reged: 12/26/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Derby, Kansas
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Yep, really like the fact that I can get some way for the public to take picture of the moon and the planets with there compact digital cameras! and a cheap scope!
P.S. I will be offering Skype tutorials on how to assemble, image and use the galileoscope. Just sen me a message and I will arrange a time: search for, Elias Jordan
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erick
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Reged: 11/21/07
Posts: 77
Loc: Bacchus Marsh, Australia
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Quote:
Is it possible you were confusing the 18x galilean eyepiece configuration with the 25x standard configuration? It sounds like the the 18x configuration is meant only as a historical/educational example and not meant for general use.
From my reading of the picture-only instructions from unawe, picture 45 is for the 18x - look at picture 30 and picture 43, where it calls out the two different configurations.
The 18x "eyepiece" serves two purposes, as I understand it. It can be used as an 18x eyepiece to give a view more like Galileo saw. I'm not even going to try that  Its second use is to insert into the tube that then becomes a 2x barlow lens for the 25x eyepiece. When you make up the barlow, you end up with one piece left over so don't worry about that. (I store it in the end of the barlow when it is not is use so it doesn't get lost.) All clouded out tonight so no testing of the barlow, now I believe I have the lens orientation right. 
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Zoeff
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Reged: 06/10/09
Posts: 252
Loc: Haarlem, Netherlands
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I've taken one last afocal image trough the Galileoscope with the correctly configured barlow in place. No more fiddling with tiny lenses anymore. (Hopefully...)
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Telescopes: NexStar 8SE, 90ED f/5.5 doublet, Galileoscope
Accessories: Hyperion 36mm, GSO 32mm, E-lux 25mm, Hyperion 8mm,
DBK 41AU02.AS, 2x Barlow, 0.63x Focal Reducer, Solar Filter, UHC Filter
My (astro-)photos can be found on flickr.
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Elias_Jordan
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Reged: 12/26/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Derby, Kansas
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I am thinking I set-up the 18x eyepiece wrong, but I did check it with the diagram... and it was right. So can anyone try a take an image with there 18x (Galilean Eyepiece)
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Zoeff
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Reged: 06/10/09
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Quote:
I am thinking I set-up the 18x eyepiece wrong, but I did check it with the diagram... and it was right. So can anyone try a take an image with there 18x (Galilean Eyepiece)
It's meant to be extremely narrow, it's to show how galileo observed the solar system. I can't even get my camera to focus on such a small light source heh...
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Telescopes: NexStar 8SE, 90ED f/5.5 doublet, Galileoscope
Accessories: Hyperion 36mm, GSO 32mm, E-lux 25mm, Hyperion 8mm,
DBK 41AU02.AS, 2x Barlow, 0.63x Focal Reducer, Solar Filter, UHC Filter
My (astro-)photos can be found on flickr.
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erick
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Reged: 11/21/07
Posts: 77
Loc: Bacchus Marsh, Australia
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I've taken one last afocal image trough the Galileoscope with the correctly configured barlow in place. No more fiddling with tiny lenses anymore. (Hopefully...)
Clear skies this early morning. Full report later, but my barlow now looks much better. Your image looks pretty good to the edge - compared to what we were seeing. I think we have it right now. 
Edited by erick (07/17/09 06:55 PM)
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Crow Haven
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Reged: 01/09/09
Posts: 448
Loc: Above the glistening waters of...
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Just wanted to report in that I received mine today! 
My order number was 83 and area is coastal Oregon, USA. I ordered 4 and all is well with the shipment. These are very cool!!!   Kudos to all involved in making this project happen!!!
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My Gallery
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Elias_Jordan
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Reged: 12/26/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Derby, Kansas
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Here we go Galileoscope Imaging Report:
First up: The Moon (un-obstructed)
Very easy to take this image, all you have to do is set the Galileoscope up on a Steady Tripod, hold the camera up to the 25x Eyepiece, focus, and shoot. Though if you are shooting with a non-manual focus cam, it may take a few movements to get the focus right...
Moon: Obstructed
Same shooting steps as above.
Next Up: Jupiter
This is what I was most amazed with...I loved what results came out with a $15 dollar plastic telescope! Couldn't even get this detail with the Obs. $200 achro. Though this one took a lot more work. Now legally I can't recommend this method. But personally I can. What you want to do is temporarily modify it with some Tape  Don't laugh it true, tape will make everything work better for you.
Here are some quick instructions. (PS offical and safe AP with galilescope guide is still being made, Its a pictorial  ) And if you get any results please post!
What you need,
-Tape
-Camera
-Galileoscope
-Tripod
-T-ring
-T-adapter
Steps
1. attach the T-ring to the t adapter
2 Now attach the T-ring/T-adapter to the Camera.
3. Place the camera on the Tripod.
4. Assemble the Barlow without placing the 25x eypiece in.
5. attach the barlow to the scope.
Important 6. This is kindof hard too explain but you need to situate the tape in between the and above the focus-barlow connection. (if you understand what I mean...
7 attach the scope to the camera, not the camera to the scope.
8. Try and Image!
This is just a little bit of info to help anyone out. but better and more will soon be published. And of course I will post the links here.
All the Best & Clear Skies
-Elias Jordan
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newbir1970
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Reged: 05/05/09
Posts: 25
Loc: Hudson Valley, NY
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Quote:
Just wanted to report in that I received mine today!
My order number was 83 and area is coastal Oregon, USA. I ordered 4 and all is well with the shipment. These are very cool!!! Kudos to all involved in making this project happen!!!
Maya~ My order was 87. So mine might arrive one of these days. Just out of curiosity what carrier (UPS,FEDEX) did yours arrive by? Also you were one of the first 100 that had to reorder. How did that work out?
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Looking for the stars!
Mike C.
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Crow Haven
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Reged: 01/09/09
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Hi Mike! I can say I'm sooo happy to finally have my Galileoscopes arrive. 
The carrier for mine is USPS. The large brown cardboard box has in bold lettering on the sides, "Galileoscope," and 4 units are also marked on the box.
I was puzzled when info came out that there had been troubles with payments being properly recorded for the first 100 orders. When I placed my order I got a confirmation email right afterwards with the details of my order and its number = 83. That seemed ok, but then the news came out of the problem and delays. I just decided to wait though, I figured if there was a problem I'd get an email from the company, but I never did, and I didn't try to reorder...so I just waited to see what would happen.
Others said the email requests for status info was met with just an automated response...so I decided again just to wait till the end of July, and if nothing showed up then I'd take action and get things straightened out.
Thankfully, everything worked out great, and my suggestion is to just hang in there and give things a little more time.
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My Gallery
Edited by Crow Haven (07/18/09 02:47 AM)
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Crow Haven
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Reged: 01/09/09
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Loc: Above the glistening waters of...
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Elias -- Terrific images! Creative use of the Galileoscope! People are going to have a lot of fun with this.
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My Gallery
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Carl Kolchak
professor emeritus
Reged: 08/02/06
Posts: 546
Loc: Northeast, Florida
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Hi all,
I received my Galileoscope today via USPS. My order was placed 2/24/09 with an order #1472. Delivery city was Jacksonville, Florida.
peace & clear skies,
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Richard H.
Antares 105mm f/9.5 Elite Series Refractor
AstroTelescopes 102mm f/7 Refractor
Orion ShortTube 90mm f/5.6 Refractor
Meade Model 300 80mm f/15 Refractor
Tasco Cosmic 6TE-5 50mm f/12 Refractor
Orion SkyView Pro 8" Intelliscope
Orion Scenix 10x50 Binoculars
Zhumell SuperGiant 20x80 binoculars
NightSky Journal
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Crow Haven
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Reged: 01/09/09
Posts: 448
Loc: Above the glistening waters of...
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I just wanted to say that I got a chance to assemble one today and, WOW, I'm really impressed with not only the optic quality but the parts fit and finish and overall packaging/presentation! I don't think I've ever come across a kit at such a low price point for anything which went together smoothly, as advertised, and with such ease. It's a very solid scope and very cool to be able to take apart for different configurations/demonstrations. I'm just stunned at the nice view the doublet and eyepiece lenses produce. The scope designers and manufacturers did a wonderful job! Thanks for bringing this to the world to share.
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My Gallery
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erick
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Reged: 11/21/07
Posts: 77
Loc: Bacchus Marsh, Australia
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I agree Crow Haven. The more I experiment with it the more amazing is what has been achieved for the price! Congratulations to the team!
Edited by erick (07/18/09 10:30 PM)
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