skybsd
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Hi,
Thought members might find Celestron's press release announcement on their new mount (the CGEM) to be of some interest 
Selected features mentioned :
Permanent Periodic Error Correction
The CGEM will track well past the Meridian for uninterrupted imaging through the most ideal part of the sky.
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LLEEGE
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Interesting...Wonder what the target price will be?
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Jeff55
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Read that this will be Celestron's version of the Synata EQ-6...does anyone have a picture of the new mount...there's nothing in the press release.
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mclewis1
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Not a replacement for the CGE. It's positioned between the advanced series (CG-5A) and CGE ... so yes most likely based on the Atlas/EQ-6.
"The mount has a fresh, attractive, bold appearance and is capable of carrying Celestron's higher-end SCT optical tubes (up to 11") ... "
"The CGEM mount is the perfect fit between Celestron's Advanced Series and CGE Series."
Real news would be a replacement for the CGE.
CGEM ... M for medium?
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pennyandchris
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Quote:
Read that this will be Celestron's version of the Synata EQ-6...does anyone have a picture of the new mount...there's nothing in the press release.
There's a link in the press release to a huge tif file.
Not compared it directly, because I don't have views of the same side of both mounts, but it looks a bit like a slightly restyled orange and black EQ6 / Atlas sized mount.
The tube clamp looks similar, and it's loaded up with a double CW like the EQ6 in publicity pics.
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pennyandchris
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Thinking about it, shame thay couldn't do a clone of the GM8 in the way that the CGE is virtually the same as the G11
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dickbill
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Yes, it looks like a CG5 tripod, the equatorial head looks new and not really similar to an EQ6, there is a CGE style saddle. It's hard to see the size of the shaft, but it looks about the same size as the CG5 shaft.
Plus there is something on the side of the equatorial head, I can see what it is, looks like an electronic pad.
Clutches are well dimentioned and should allow for precise polar alignment.
The RA seems able to include a polar finder despite the new Allstar polar axis routine.
Now, everything else that matter is not visible: style of worm, manufacturing precision, typical PE, steel versus aluminiun etc.
This mount could very well be a knockout.
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Jeff55
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Finally loaded up the CGEM image and (to me) it looks a bit smaller than an EQ-6 but appears to carry the larger Losmandy style dovetails. It's highly stylized in almost a cartoonish sort of way. Have to wait until there's more information.
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Jeff55
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Dickbill
I think you're right this is the CG-5 replacement and not a Celestron version of the (bigger payload) Synta EQ-6. Too bad...I think a number of were hoping for something in between the CGE and the CG-5.
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dickbill
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Jeff
It looks slightly bigger than a CG5. But the tripod looks the same 2" diameter. Anyway, the CG5 tripod is also the same in the EQ6 ATlas, so this mount could definitively be in the same class than an EQ6 with a payload in a similar range around 40 pounds.
We shouldn't conclude too fast that this mound is just a revamped copy of the Atlas. It could have a similar payload, but the electronic could be completely different and the mechanical precision could be better. Will see.
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Gord
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Hi,
I just did a google for info on this thing, and there is a lot of stuff showing up in Europe. I found some info that indicated it's slated to fit between the ASGT and the CGE.
Managed to find a smaller pic too of a C11 riding on the thing. Definitely doesn't look like a re-badged EQ6. Could be similar in size though.
I see styling elements from all over: C/W's look like CGE, but could be smaller given there are 2 of them for a C11. The back end of the polar axis reminds me a little of a Tak EM11/200 for some reason. Dovetail mounting block is CGE compatible. Tripod definitely looks like the 2" SS from the ASGT (or similar). The alt-az adjustment controls are different, much larger and more pronounced looking grips. The ports interface is similar to an EQ6.
It could be a very worked over EQ6 (different casings, etc.), but they sure have changed a lot of things. Don't see any info from Celestron, or on any North American sites yet.
Thanks,
-Gord
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nofxrx
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Looks interesting to me as I am looking for a new mount in this class.
The big alt/az adjustment knobs look great..it is "funny" lookin,but so am I 
In case no one wants to DL it..
NOTICE OF EDIT:Stock photos should not be posted without explicit permission. CH
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Edited by Charlie Hein (10/02/08 12:14 PM)
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dickbill
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As Gord said, the RA axis looks more like a Tak than a EQ6.
Does it mean Tak precision ? let's hope.
It looks to me that the RA axis is longer than a EQ6, that would give clearance to the mount to pass the meridian without to flip, as it is advertised in the photokina report.
But that would also mean that the center of gravity is further away from the center of the tripod.
I can't wait to see the specifications of this mount.
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waassaabee
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Could be just what the doctor ordered!!
Maybe just in time for Christmas...
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sang33ta
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Lets hope they made it quiter than the AGT-CG5 
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Oly Olson
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That's a new mount - no Atlas or Sirius and it looks to be at least as beefy as the Atlas. Outstanding! Well...I guess I should hold the "Hoorah!" until we see the price...
Cheers,
Oly
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rmollise
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Quote:
Dickbill
I think you're right this is the CG-5 replacement and not a Celestron version of the (bigger payload) Synta EQ-6. Too bad...I think a number of were hoping for something in between the CGE and the CG-5.
Your wish is granted. It's not a replacement for the CG5. It's a mount positioned between the CG5 and the CGE.
Yeah, it looks kinda purty--all modern and stuff, but deep down it is a good, ol' Atlas (EQ6). Actually, it's more similar to the NEQ6, what with the Losmandy saddle plate an' all.
As for as noise? It should be similar to the Atlas, I would think, which is very quiet.
Is it BETTER than the Atlas? That is a toss up. You get the NexStar controller, which is--there is no doubt about this--lightyears ahead of the Synscan. You can also use NexRemote. OTOH, you will not be able to use EQMOD.
Me? I'm happy with my Atlas, very happy, but if this had been available a year ago, I woulda bought this instead.
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CHASLX200
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Anyone have a link to a pic of this new mount?
Chas
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doug76
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RogerRZ
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It looks suspiciously familiar to an EQ6. Also, if you look closely, the dovetail looks like a Vixen style welded to a Losmandy style. The saddle looks Vixen sized.
Like Uncle Rod, I much prefer the Nexstar HC to the Synscan. Eqmod helps, but sometimes, one wants to leave the PC idle...
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