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rodelaet
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Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31.
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Of all galaxies, M31 is perhaps the most famous and the most observed one. With an integrated magnitude of 3.5, the Andromeda Galaxy is even visible to the unaided eye on clear nights as an obvious elongated smudge of light. M31 is, besides M33, the remotest object to be observed with the naked eye. Even at a distance of 2.4 million l-y, the Andromeda Galaxy still covers almost 4° of the night sky. M31 forms together with M33 and our very own Milky Way, the main core of the Local Galaxy Group. I once read that our Milky Way and M31 are on a collision course with each other.
In general, binoculars are not the preferred instrument to study galaxies. But what an amazing view has the Andromeda Galaxy to offer in a pair of binoculars! The large central bulge of M31 can be seen with direct vision. The nucleus appears star like. The elongated halo fades slowly away in the background. With averted vision, the halo can be followed for 1 ½° on each side of the central bulge. While nucleus, central bulge and halo are visible as distinct features, they happen to be merged together as one solid body. The NW side of the galaxy is tilted towards us. Here is where multiple dust lanes absorb the soft glowing light of the galaxy in our line of sight. That is why the NW side of the galaxy appears ‘bordered’, while the SE side shows a softer edge. I did have the impression that another dust lane could be seen on the SE side of the galaxy, or just behind the central bulge. If the dust lanes don’t look obvious to you at first, try to gently rock the binoculars. The motion will stimulate your night vision. As if the Andromeda Galaxy isn’t interesting enough to observe, there is more to go after: satellite galaxies! One of M31’s satellites is M32. It can be found just S of the central bulge. It appears like a small star that is put out of focus. The other satellite galaxy, M110, can be found at ½° NW of the central bulge. M110 looks like a faint isolated cloud when seen with averted vision.
The view of the Andromeda Galaxy and its satellites in my 15x70 TS Marine binoculars was impressive! When I finished my field sketch, I sat back and enjoyed the naked eye view from my observing site in the French Alps. I had never seen M31 so clearly. Much to my surprise, I noticed that M31 had company from two other deep-sky objects, visible between Andromeda and Triangulum. The most obvious object was the open cluster NGC 752. The other was the utterly elusive galaxy M33, at a distance of 2.7 million l-y!


Site : Le Castellard Melan, France ( 44° N )
Date : September 28, 2008
Time : around 23.00UT
Binoculars : TS Marine 15x70
FOV: 4.4°
Filter : none
Mount : Trico Machine Sky Window
Seeing : 2/5
Transp. : 4/5
Sky brightness : 21.33 magnitudes per square arc second near zenith (SQM reading).
Nelm: 6.5
Sketch Orientation: N up, W right.
Digital sketch made with Corel Paint Shop Pro X2, based on a raw pencil sketch.

(Note: if the sketch does look too dark on your monitor, try to darken the room.)

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Edited by rodelaet (10/08/08 05:42 AM)


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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2685996 - 10/07/08 07:04 PM

STUNNING AGAIN!

I certainly have a lot to learn. Thank you Rony for this beautiful sketch.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: GlenM]
      #2686162 - 10/07/08 08:40 PM

Rony,

You have really made a great sketch here. The foreground stars in our galaxy give a great sense of depth to the sketch of this wonderful spiral. All you need is a little optical aid and you make these beautiful re-creations of spectacular deep sky objects. Incredible sketch Rony.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: frank5817]
      #2686164 - 10/07/08 08:41 PM

Rony,

This has to be my favorite sketch of all that you've done. Outstanding realism. Absolutely striking!

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: PhilH]
      #2686529 - 10/08/08 01:00 AM

Rony,



Absolutely magnificent!!

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2686587 - 10/08/08 02:28 AM

Rony

Beautiful sketchwork. You have rendered the galaxy and its companions quite accurately. I also commend you for the advice on moving the optics to enhance the image while observing. It is quite true that this actually works. I discovered it accidentally when I got my first binoculars as a 13 year old. I thought I had special vision when the optics shook.

You and others here have reminded me that I need to do a large Andromeda sketch as my first DSO. Just wish I had when I lived under dark skies for 30 years. As I am currently in Des Moines Iowa on that long road trip; perhaps I will pull out the 10.1" Dob and do this while on the cross country trip under dark skies.

Thanks for sharing this Rony and your concise text info,

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: markseibold]
      #2687621 - 10/08/08 05:10 PM

Glen, Frank, Phil, Wade and Mark,

Thank you for the compliments.

While the observation was not extremely difficult to do, I did spent a few hours on the digital sketch. M31 is a very challenging object to render. The hardest part was to draw the core and the halo in such a manner that they merge nicely with each other and with the background glow.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2690389 - 10/10/08 01:06 AM

Rony,

One of the finest observations of the famous Andromeda Galaxy (M31) I have ever seen. You have captured the soft glow of this celestial neighbor beautifully. It appears to glow in your fine rendering. Thank you for sharing it with us all.

Carlos

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: CarlosEH]
      #2691508 - 10/10/08 04:48 PM

Carlos,

I'm glad that you like the sketch. Thanks!


I look forward to your future observations.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2701020 - 10/15/08 05:55 PM

Just for the record : I've been running through my observation notes and verified dates and times. The time of observation should be : 21.00 UT.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2702768 - 10/16/08 05:53 PM

Looks like just what I saw recently in 15x70s near Puerto Peñasco, México. I was amazed how big and bright M110 was.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: jmcdonald]
      #2707334 - 10/19/08 03:40 PM

Hi Jerel,

Thank you for your reply.

It is my experience that an object becomes better visible if it has been observed before. Certainly if the previous observation was done under darker skies or with larger aperture. Such is the case with M32 and M110. If you know what to look for, they become easier to see.

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: rodelaet]
      #2727188 - 10/30/08 08:50 PM

This is a magnificent sketch! I have admired many of your previous sketches but this one is outstanding! Well done!

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: mickmrn1]
      #2727656 - 10/31/08 04:57 AM

Excellent Rony

Wish my skies were as dark as your - although I get a reasonable view through my 15x70s its not a prominent as yours

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Re: Binocular Icon 38 : The Andromeda Spiral M31. new [Re: keef]
      #2730063 - 11/01/08 04:57 PM

Michelle,

Thank you, I really appreciate your kind words.


Keith,

Thank you!

My backyard skies are around 5.4 to 5.7. This observation was done at a dark site at 1100km from home. The binoculars are very portable, so do take them along whenever you travel abroad.

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