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redsquash
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Is this 8mm Ethos redundant?
      #2690886 - 10/10/08 11:23 AM

Is an 8mm Ethos redundant , or almost redundant if A 13mm Ethos is used with a 2.5x powermate in my set up.
I have an order on hold for the 8mm and will proceed with the 13mm ethos

I guess I will also be selling some lenses

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Vixen R130 f/5
powermate 2.5
vixen LVW 5mm ,13mm
Vixen LV 8-24mm zoom

Whats the next lens to complete this set up.please send me a PM if you like


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jimmoscheck
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: redsquash]
      #2691036 - 10/10/08 12:37 PM

With a 2.5X Powermate and 13mm Ethos = 5.2mm

" " 2X barlow or Powermate = 6.5mm

A 1.6X barlow will yield close to the magnification of the 8mm Ethos.




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Jim Moscheck
14.5" f4.3 home built Kriege stlye truss
Stevens primary

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redsquash
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: jimmoscheck]
      #2691052 - 10/10/08 12:43 PM

Just wanted confirmation it was redundant which you indicate it is
thanks

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Vixen R130 f/5
powermate 2.5
vixen LVW 5mm ,13mm
Vixen LV 8-24mm zoom

Whats the next lens to complete this set up.please send me a PM if you like


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keef95
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: redsquash]
      #2691401 - 10/10/08 04:00 PM

The 8mm Ethos would only be redundent if you don't need more than 125X. With the short focal lenght of the R130 f/5, even the 8mm Ethos w/2.5 Powermate will give you only a tick over 200X.

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Obsession 18"/OMI primary
CPC1100 w/Moonlight Focuser
Zhumell 8" Dob
Baader 5,8,13,17,24 & 36mm
Ethos 8mm & 13mm
UHC-S,O-III,M&SG,Vari Polarizer


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ovgjr
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: keef95]
      #2691417 - 10/10/08 04:09 PM

Are my 8 Plossl and 8 Ethos redundant?

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Tele-Vue 60is
Tele-Vue 102
Losmandy G11
Ethos 8mm
Ethos 13mm
Ethos 6mm pre-ordered
Ethos 17mm pre-ordered
Nagler 31mm T5
Nagler 26mm T5
Nagler 20mm T5
Nagler 16mm T5
Nagler 13mm T6
Nagler 11mm T6
Nagler 9mm T6
Nagler 7mm T6
Nagler 5mm T6
Nagler 3.5mm T6
Nagler 2.5mm T6
Nagler 2-4 zoom
Panoptic 41mm
All the TV Plossls


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Terrance
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: ovgjr]
      #2691524 - 10/10/08 04:59 PM

Ovgir:

Yes, IMHO, for any viewing session where you would take your ethos. However I simply would not risk an Ethos at a public star party, do to concern about damage or theft.

However, the 8mm ep probably fills a needed nitch in your magnifications, and you do not get much money by selling a used plossl anyway, so I would retain the plossl as a spare, and use it for situations where you do not want the Ethos at risk.

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Terrance
Celestron 9.25 SCT
10" f/5 X-Class Dob
SV 102ED


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ChrisBrowning
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: Terrance]
      #2691621 - 10/10/08 06:02 PM

ovgjr,

I've definitely got to go with Terrance on that, anytime your doing any public observing and need the 8mm, you don't have to get fingers and eye makeup on your ethos. So definitely not redundant.

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In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe - Carl Sagan

Member of North East Florida Astronomical Society (NEFAS)

-Jacksonville,FL

Zhumell 10" Dob-10:1 Dual Speed Crayford Focuser
Meade ETX-60 'Backpack Observatory'
Televue Plossls 8 & 15 mm
Old 2.3x40 Constellation Binos
7x50 Alpen Binos


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ovgjr
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: ChrisBrowning]
      #2692034 - 10/10/08 10:50 PM

Point well taken. I would never take my Ethos to a star party, but let me state that there is something unique about the views of Jupiter and Saturn through the 8 Plossl. Maybe it's the simplicity of the design (less glass?). My friend at the club actually convinced me to get the 8 Plossl specifically for planetary observing. I also have all the T6s but still use the Plossl. By the way, the zooms are quite useful also.

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Tele-Vue 60is
Tele-Vue 102
Losmandy G11
Ethos 8mm
Ethos 13mm
Ethos 6mm pre-ordered
Ethos 17mm pre-ordered
Nagler 31mm T5
Nagler 26mm T5
Nagler 20mm T5
Nagler 16mm T5
Nagler 13mm T6
Nagler 11mm T6
Nagler 9mm T6
Nagler 7mm T6
Nagler 5mm T6
Nagler 3.5mm T6
Nagler 2.5mm T6
Nagler 2-4 zoom
Panoptic 41mm
All the TV Plossls


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ChrisBrowning
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Re: Is this 8mm Ethos redundant? new [Re: ovgjr]
      #2692827 - 10/11/08 12:15 PM

I have two Televue Plossls 8 & 15 and I love them for Planetary Observing. They Barlow very well and you don't really need a huge FOV for Planetary Observing.

The only positive I have found for wide field planetary viewing is that obviously it wont leave the FOV as quickly.

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In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe - Carl Sagan

Member of North East Florida Astronomical Society (NEFAS)

-Jacksonville,FL

Zhumell 10" Dob-10:1 Dual Speed Crayford Focuser
Meade ETX-60 'Backpack Observatory'
Televue Plossls 8 & 15 mm
Old 2.3x40 Constellation Binos
7x50 Alpen Binos


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