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Jerry Hyman
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Reged: 03/29/07
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
Conical mirrors and fan installation question new
      #2688136 - 10/08/08 10:04 PM

I am planning to build my own Newt using a conical mirror. Can anyone who has tried building a solid tube newt with a conical mirror give me the pros and cons of fan and exhaust placement?

Thanks!

~jerry

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9.25" Celestron carbon fiber SCT
Vixen Super Polaris Deluxe mount
Vixen Super Polaris mount
Burgess BV24 Binos


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spaceghost
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Reged: 01/04/07
Posts: 139
Loc: Olathe, KS
Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Jerry Hyman]
      #2688269 - 10/08/08 11:37 PM

Hi Jerry!
I built a 12.5" solid-tube newtonian with a Royce conical mirror. I put three 10 cm computer fans on the back, blowing up the tube. Seems to work great, I'm curious to see how well I do when it gets colder at night. The board the fans are on has three velcro patches that stick to three blocks with velcro I glued to my mirror mount.

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spaceghost
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Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: spaceghost]
      #2688272 - 10/08/08 11:38 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

meant to attach a picture and it disappeared, try again.

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Chimaera
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Reged: 09/09/07
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Loc: Toronto, Canada
Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Jerry Hyman]
      #2688306 - 10/09/08 12:04 AM Attachment (20 downloads)

I built a 8in f6 reflector with Royce conical mirror and Protostar Blacklight tube. The back of the tube is closed with a resin "camping" plate with a hole sawn for a fan blowing up the tube. The back plate is isolated from the tube with a strip of insulation foam and held in place with elastic hair braids. Fan speed controlled with pot. Works great. 8in Royce conical mirror does not have a lot of mass. Reaches ambient temperature very quickly.

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Chimaera
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Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Chimaera]
      #2688310 - 10/09/08 12:05 AM Attachment (24 downloads)

Picture with back plate on.

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Jeff Morgan
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 09/28/03
Posts: 1512
Loc: Prescott, AZ
Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Jerry Hyman]
      #2689786 - 10/09/08 06:44 PM

Being in the desert I have 30-35 degrees of nightly temperature drop to contend with. I have gone to using a 12" household fan placed behind my scope blowing air into the rear of the mirror box, low setting. Works well, and as you might expect zero issues with vibration.

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Jeff Morgan
Prescott, AZ
Wile E. Coyote School of Telescope Making


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Roy McCoy
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Reged: 10/13/05
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Loc: Glendale, AZ
Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #2690153 - 10/09/08 10:18 PM

Jeff,

How have you attached the fan? Did you screw it directly or did you use rubber bands or bushings?

Roy


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Jeff Morgan
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Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Roy McCoy]
      #2691164 - 10/10/08 01:40 PM

Not attached in any fashion. A normal house fan sitting on the ground about six inches behind the mirror box.

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Jeff Morgan
Prescott, AZ
Wile E. Coyote School of Telescope Making


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Roy McCoy
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Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #2691734 - 10/10/08 07:07 PM

Oh my goodness, I read right past that in your post above.

Thanks Jeff,

Roy


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rboeAdministrator
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Re: Conical mirrors and fan installation question [Re: Roy McCoy]
      #2691790 - 10/10/08 07:51 PM

I've resorted to the same thing with my dob in the backyard (where AC current is available) on some nights (tonight would be a nice exception). Lot's of flow.

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Ron


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Pronto
16" dob
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