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cpsTN
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Remembering 7x35s? new
      #2691532 - 10/10/08 05:03 PM

Now at age 40, I remember when I was a child and teen that 7x35 was the most common binocular there was. I suppose they have been supplanted by 8x40s and 10x50s, but the best pair I ever owned was a K-mart (focal brand) 7x35 with the hard molded black plastic casing and a 7* FOV. The focus was amazingly easy and quick and the whole thing was lighter than a mouse's thought - and all this at $20 new in 1984! They finally fell apart in 2006 after 22 years. I think I got my money's worth.

Edited by cpsTN (10/10/08 05:05 PM)


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Swedpat
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: cpsTN]
      #2691599 - 10/10/08 05:50 PM

cpsTN,

You are not alone to think about the 7x35 binocular. Personally I think this configuration is undeserved abandoned. According to some opinions considered as the true allround glass, if I got it right. The last great and priceworthy 7x35 may be the discontinued Minolta Activa.

Regards, Patric

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*2,3x40 Constellation View Wide-Bino
*Leupold 6x30 Yosemite
*Leupold Katmai 6x32
*Swarovski SLCNew 7x42B
*Bresser (Lidl) 10x50
*Oberwerk 11x70
*No name (Kunming) 15x70
*Scopos ED APO 66
*Meade 5000 26mm Plössl, Vixen LV 10/5mm

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binman
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: Swedpat]
      #2691612 - 10/10/08 05:58 PM

my dad uses a pair of 7x35 porro's on his walks and loves them, extremely wide field of view, light, compact and still very bright with a 5mm exit pupil.... highly under rated imo

regards mark

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opticron "imagic" BGA SE 8x42 roofs
russian bpc5 8x30 and bpc2 12x45 porro's


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cpsTN
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: binman]
      #2691680 - 10/10/08 06:32 PM

Nikon has, or at least had, a 7x35 in its Action line, along with 8x40 and 10x50 - all three with 5mm xps.

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Zhumell 8" f/5.9 dob
Looking Up since 1982

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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: cpsTN]
      #2691692 - 10/10/08 06:43 PM

At age 13/14, soon after discovering the night sky with my Tasco 40mm tabletop terrestrial refractor (25-50X in 5X clickable increments), I occasionally used a friend's wide angle 7x35. I vividly remember how I just LOVED the huge apparent field of 70 deg., as compared to the *maybe* 25 deg. keyhole my piddly scope offered.

Even after buying my first 7x50 (as so often recommended in the day), its 50 deg. apparent field just left so much to be desired whenever I had the chance to compare with that 7x35.

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Home-made 11X50 right angle bino, 8.1 deg. FOV
Modified 26X100 bino, 3.5 deg. FOV

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charen
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? [Re: GlennLeDrew]
      #2691855 - 10/10/08 08:50 PM Attachment (19 downloads)

Hi ! I have previously had 2x older Japanese 7x35mmm binoculars which had reasonable optics they have now been sold.
The only one I have now - and optically the best - is my Russian ‘Berkut’ 7x35.
It comes out of the ‘Zagorski Optical Plant’ which manufacture PBC / Tento / Zomtz binoculars.
The FOV is 8.5 and Afov being 60 degrees.
They have splendid deep purple / magenta lens coatings and whilst appearing to be F.M.C. I would assume they are M.C. The exit pupils are round.
They display minimal internal reflections.
The image is bright. The contrast is surprisingly good but there is a very mild yellowish tinge which may be a negative factor for some.
The on axis views are sharp with curvature from around 70 %. There is mild pincushioning, There are no obvious other aberrations.
They have soft rubber eyecups and the E.R. is around 15mm. The focuser is fast and has some minor movement when under pressure.
They are well built and weigh a solid 28 oz.
They are not W.P.
They cost me the equivalent of $40 US dollars approx 3 years ago.
They do come up occasionally and are worth seeking out.
[The below photo also shows the Tento 7x50 Binocular.]

Chris

http://zomz.sposad.ru/En/EMain_Z.htm

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35 binos.
80mm Cat.
WO66ED
SV NH 80mm / EQ3
Meade 8in.LX90
Skywatcher Equinox ED120 / Goto HEQ5.


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charen
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: charen]
      #2691858 - 10/10/08 08:53 PM Attachment (21 downloads)

Front photo

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35 binos.
80mm Cat.
WO66ED
SV NH 80mm / EQ3
Meade 8in.LX90
Skywatcher Equinox ED120 / Goto HEQ5.


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werewolf6977
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: charen]
      #2692351 - 10/11/08 04:59 AM

I've got a pair of Tasco 7X35's (check sig-line), and these Garage Sale $3.00 wonders are the ones I grab the most when I bust sucker-holes. Lightweight, acceptable light-athering (under a red/orange zone border here), there ya go!

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Pete
6" Apogee/LXD55 - "The Beast"
Starhopper 6" Dob - "Shiva"
Spaceprobe 130 EQ - "Spacey"
Bushnell Fatboy
The Abomination
Sun Pak Pro 7500 Platinum Edition
10X25 Bushnell Camo Roofies
7X35 Tasco Classic Plastic (good views though)
7X42 Tasco Rare Bird
10X50 Nikon Actions (Type 7)
15X70 Skymasters - "DroolMeisters"
One ratty old IBM 600E LapTop


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Luigi
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #2692420 - 10/11/08 07:53 AM

Somewhere around here I have an old pair (30 years?) of Sears 7x35s, which work quite well. I also have older 7x42 Leica Trinovids. I think, for some reason, the general bino buying public has favored 8x and 10x, driving the 7x to extinction. The difference between 7 and 8 is really pretty small. I think Leica may still offer 7x.

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IM715 7" f/15 MCT, Eon-120ED
Lunt 60mm single etalon HA
CG5A coffee grinder, Orion Skyview Alt-AZ
35,19,15 Pans.9 Nag. Meade 24.5 4kSWA, 4.7 5kUWA.
BO-TMB 7mm planetary.
Zeiss Diascope 85
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Wes James
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: Luigi]
      #2692545 - 10/11/08 09:35 AM

I recently picked up a pair of Sears 7x35's with a 12* FOV! Had Cory at Suddarth collimate them/give them a going over, they're absolutely wonderful binoculars! Wouldn't part with them at ALL!

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Wes
Atlantic Beach, FL

Some bino’s from Miyauchi 5x32 Binon's up through Garrett 20x110 Signature's,
Some telescopes from a Stellarvue 80mm NHNG up through a couple of 8” reflectors…
And a wonderful 4.25" Delmarva Shiefspiegler!
Some good friends, made here on C/N.
Oh- several cats and a wonderful wife!
Anyone want a cat???? :-O

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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: Wes James]
      #2692623 - 10/11/08 10:23 AM

Hi all,

I love my 7x35s--so versatile. The field of view (actual) can vary from a bit over 7* up to about 13.5* (impressive).

I love my 7x50s, but they are SO heavy. In these days of light pollution and such, the 'ol 7x35s excell.

Best regards,
Dave.


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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: Wes James]
      #2692629 - 10/11/08 10:27 AM

My 7X35 Fuji 2000 with an 11° fov is my most used binocular. Just luv 'em! Many years ago I bought a new pair of Celestron 7X35s that (I believe) were the same as the 12° Sears model Wes has. Foolishly I sold them to a fellow club member. About a year later he laid them on the roof of his car while packing up to leave an observing session. You guessed it..he remembered the binocs when he heard it crunching under one of the wheels of his car. OUCH! So sad.



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Simon S
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Re: Remembering 7x35s? new [Re: StarStuff1]
      #2700926 - 10/15/08 05:04 PM

I have many,many 7x35 binoculars and they are great! The field of view is a true shock after looking through a pair of 7x50's!
Sears discoveries, although looking like something out of Flash Gordon, are great as are many of the others from Swift (Triton) and Hilkinson's etc. A great bird spotting binocular!


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