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lymorkiew45
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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #2718369 - 10/26/08 12:01 AM

My favorites are NGC 7009, NGC 6894, NGC 6765, NGC 6781, and others as well, but my top favorite is NGC 7027, it has a striking color, and a pretty structure...clear skies

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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: lymorkiew45]
      #2718395 - 10/26/08 12:29 AM

I've never observed NGC 7027, but your description puts it on my list of objects to find!

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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #2720489 - 10/27/08 11:22 AM

Thanks for all the ideas! After having frustration last week at trying unsuccessfully to see the Helix and "Ghost of the Moon" in Aquila, I had a great night of planetaries on Saturday night. In addition to viewing M57 and M27, I had my first ever (and very nice) views of M76, the "Little Gem" in Sagittarius, and the Blue Snowball.

With all objects except M57 and M27, I first detected non-stellar nature of these at 64x and found the optimal power for all to be 208x.

Little Gem and Blue Snowball were both round and blue, appeared the same apparent size. The only difference I noticed was the dark center of the Blue Snowball, but no detail in the Gem.

M76 basically appeared as a little brother/sister to M27, except though it was significantly smaller, I thought M76 appeared brighter than M27. It was also more elongated than M27 (like a dog bone). Both appeared white.

Except for the difference in color, the Blue Snowball appeared like a miniature M57. The distinct dark center of the Blue Snowball gave it an annular appearance.

Based on your recommendations, I look forward to trying for NGC 6543 (Catseye Nebula), NGC 40 (Bow tie Nebula), and others.

M97 is now the only Messier planetary I need to conquer. It's becoming almost a nemesis. Is this one I'll need a nebular filter for?

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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: proud uncle]
      #2731139 - 11/02/08 12:10 PM

Kenneth --

The Owl (M97) is pretty bright, so you shouldn't need a filter for it. I've found that a UHC helps somewhat with the "eyes" (the two dark spots), but that averted vision and more magnification will also reveal them. If you have dark skies (NELM 6 or better) I'd suggest around 300x for it. Under brighter skies it will probably dim too much and you may need to stay around 200x.

NGC40 is much more compact, so I'd try more like 400x on it (even under brighter skies). With a night of good seeing, more power is often better than more filtration on planetary nebulae. For instance, the uneven edge of NGC40 is more apparent to me at 510x in a 16" Mak-Cass.

Same for NGC6543 -- I've used up to 600x on it to get some contrast between the fainter outer shell and the background.

Cheers and good hunting,
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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: proud uncle]
      #2732332 - 11/03/08 02:34 AM

Quote:

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NGC6781 - Ghost of Moon (>2')



I tried looking for this Thursday night, without success. I am confident the scope was pointing right at it. It must have very low surface brightness.




It is not so hard under an 5.5 magnitude sky, even with a 4.5" Newton.

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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #2732387 - 11/03/08 05:21 AM

As a southerner my favourites are the Blue Planetary, Saturn, Eskimo, 8-Burst, Ghost of Jupiter and Helix nebulas.

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Re: Your favorite non-Messier planetary? [Re: tigerroach]
      #2734084 - 11/04/08 03:12 AM

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NGC 7293, the Helix. Easy in binocs and small scopes if the skies are dark enough, especially with a NB filter. A little more aperture helps for seeing the screwy details.



I concur, in fact, the helix is my favorite planetary of all when it comes to planetariesfor amateur scopes. In a dark sky it is easy to detect and each step up in instrument continues to show more detail.. Long live the Helix!
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