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Rob_G
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I'm confused - isn't THIS the Meade ETX forum  Some Celestron advocates seem lost and confusing the "Meade v Celestron" thread with this one on the "ETX-LS". In fairness for those living in parallel universes perhaps we could have both these threads on the Celestron forum too 
I agree. 
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Bob Griffiths
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I'm confused - isn't THIS the Meade ETX forum Some Celestron advocates seem lost and confusing the "Meade v Celestron" thread with this one on the "ETX-LS". In fairness for those living in parallel universes perhaps we could have both these threads on the Celestron forum too
I do own BOTH BRANDS of GoTo scopes ...but I still agree with the quote above...I was reading this thread just to get some basic info on the new ETX-LS Meade scope...
No need to even start a debate about C and M
Bob G.
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Rob_G
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I'm confused - isn't THIS the Meade ETX forum Some Celestron advocates seem lost and confusing the "Meade v Celestron" thread with this one on the "ETX-LS". In fairness for those living in parallel universes perhaps we could have both these threads on the Celestron forum too
I do own BOTH BRANDS of GoTo scopes ...but I still agree with the quote above...I was reading this thread just to get some basic info on the new ETX-LS Meade scope...
No need to even start a debate about C and M
Bob G.
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To me, it's like going into the refractor forum and telling everyone why a reflector is better.
Certainly, all are welcome, but this is the ETX forum. People are here to read about ETX's, not Celestrons.
Now a thread on "which is better" is obviously different. The intent there is to compare different scopes.
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supercoolone
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I think the clutch debate became a stream of conciousness. Having said that, I don't think this develoved into a C vs. M debate - its pretty clear that the debate allowed people to point out that there appear to be no clutches on the ETX LS. Anyho - unless someone has fondled this ETX LS...pure conjecture at this point is fun. Talking about conjecture, I am wondering what the lip on the bottom of the OTA is, is that the CCD?
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You mean the goodie hanging down with 'ECLIPS module' printed on it? If so that is the CCD camera. It appears to possibly plug into the OTA and can be removed.
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I don't like at all the ETX-LS. I must confess: I am a newbie, I wanted a sharp - refractor like - optics, without the need to collimate, compact and portable. APO refractors are too expensive for me, particularly at 5 inches aperture. So, the Maksutov-Cassegrain design was a good option. I wanted (and still want) a Questar, the ideal scope for me, with superb optical performance, compact and portable. But it is too expensive. Then, the ETX was for me. I confess, the ETX is my poor man Questar... but, the ETX-125 has 5 inches aperture! Yes, with a so so mount and mechanics but with an optical quality comparable to the Questar... So, this is the reason why I choose the ETX-125, and this is the reason why I even did not considered the NexStar Schmidt-Cassegreins, which are good telescope but not with the optical sharpness of the Maksutovs. I also must to confess that the go to feature is something almost secondary for me. I have been testing diverse eyepieces, including Brandons and Supermonos, and truly the ETX-125 is awesome for the price.
When people started talking about a new ETX, I though that this was an improved Maksutov Cassegrain, perhaps with better mount design (even a computarized GEM), with metallic gears, even perhaps a new improved 7 inch Maksutov model...and still < $1,000... but not this! The ETX-LS seems a scope more for people that love electronic gears than for people that looks for an optically good telescope for get started in astronomy, with decent apertures and not needed for special and complicated cares, like collimation... I don't understand...Why a include a CCD?... And that mount!... If that mount has still plastic gears, this would be even worst. I don't feel happy with this new model... the new ETX lost its soul...
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I'd be surprised if the current 5" Mak ended out out-resolving a 6" ACF.
Besides, Orion sells Maks from 90mm to 180mm alone or on suitable mounts. So you can build more-or-less whatever you want if you want a Mak.
Edited by Lee Jay (11/19/08 10:11 PM)
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If you want a good performing Mak on a proven, well built goto GEM.......
Orion 180mm Mak
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Mak2007
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Thank you for your comments. Actually, I know about the Orion Maks, but I've read reviews and even books (like Star Ware) in which the authors said that the ETX has better optics than the Orion, and the ETX has an optical quality comparable to the Questar. For that reason I choose the ETX over the Orion.
Regarding the ACF...this is a Schmidt-Cass modified, no? The obstruction of the secondary should be larger than the Mak...or not? If so, can actually compete an ACF against a Mak? I mean, the advantages of the SCT to Maks are because are slightly faster (F/10) and better for DSO, while the slow Mak (F/15), with less secondary obstruction and sharper, is better for moon and planetary than the SCT but not good for DSO... and that is the reason why I like Maks...
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...but yes...I must confess that the Orion 180 on GEM is very attractive to me, almost irresistible... but for next year!
Thank you for the link.
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For my wife: 24mm Hyperion, 12/8.5 Pentax XF
My workhorses: 32/24/16/12(Zebra) U.O. Konig II
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Lee Jay
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A Mak will be slightly better than an SCT for planets, but remember, we're probably talking about a 6" ACF versus a 5" Mak. My guess is that the extra aperture will more than compensate for the larger central obstruction.
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Starlighter
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The Orion has been favorably reviewed and is the biggest Mak available that's reasonably priced. The downside is the time required to cool down.
I've had my eye on that setup ever since I first saw it in the Orion catalogue. The mount is superb. And remember that all these lower priced Maks come out of China including the ETX. At one time, Meade made the entire ETX at their US plant. I believe Star Wars owns one.
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