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John J
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Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to
      #2830238 - 12/29/08 07:40 AM

If you have ever wanted to make holes for eyepieces in new foam for an eyepiece case, there is an easy way to do it. Go to you local hardware store and purchase a 2" or 1.5" (whatever size best fits your EP's) copper pipe coupler. This is a 2" coupler in the image below. Using a half round metal file, file the inside edge of one end of it to form a bevel to the outside edge making it sharp (a bit jagged too, like a serrated knife). In the image bellow you can see how it makes a knife edge on the outer edge.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh349/johnj449/DSCF0367.jpg?t=1230553946


Mark out the locations on your foam and using a rotating motion begin to apply pressure while rotating the coupler. It will cut through the foam like butter. Here is the plug it cuts.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh349/johnj449/DSCF0369.jpg?t=1230554031

After you are done you have a professional looking cut foam insert that you can be proud of!

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh349/johnj449/DSCF0370.jpg?t=1230554093

Good luck on you next case project!

JJ


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Midnight Dan
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #2830408 - 12/29/08 10:17 AM

Great tip and nice photos! Thanks!

-Dan


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #2830456 - 12/29/08 10:45 AM

JJ: Since there are so many posts asking how to do this; and your post is so concise, with great photos; I've taken the liberty to add it to the Sticky at the top of the forum; "Carol's Picks".

Carol's Picks

Thank you!


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David Castillo
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: csa/montana]
      #2830694 - 12/29/08 01:03 PM

Thanks for the tip,JJ. I heard of a similar process, but the guy wet the foam down, and froze it to increase the density. The rational was it made a cleaner looking bore.
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: David Castillo]
      #2830729 - 12/29/08 01:26 PM

Most hobby stores have circular cutters of various widths (2" is a standard) to drill holes in ABS plastic body shells. Typically, it's done by hand, and will make a very clean cut in almost any material. We use them to customize "blanks" for my son's nitro car collection.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: H Rosen]
      #2830735 - 12/29/08 01:29 PM

Very good tip JJ.. thanks for sharing!

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #3407099 - 10/23/09 09:15 PM

Great tip, can't wait to try it.

Rick


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: RixWorx]
      #3407138 - 10/23/09 09:46 PM

Rick, Welcome to Cloudy Nights! Glad to have you join the CN forums!

Let us know how this goes, when you try it!


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3407221 - 10/23/09 10:27 PM

Very nicely done. I'm positive that your info will inspire others.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #3407341 - 10/23/09 11:37 PM

Thanks for the how too John. I'm about to do a case of my own and will try your method.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #3408625 - 10/24/09 05:39 PM

great tip!

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: john D]
      #3409607 - 10/25/09 10:01 AM

I've used cans and even plastic containers or PVC pipe or fittings, whatever had the diameter I was looking for.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Luigi]
      #3409969 - 10/25/09 01:25 PM

I used this tip a while back and it worked great!



-Dan


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #3410827 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM

Dan, beautiful job!

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #3446261 - 11/13/09 04:36 PM

Something my ol' Dad taught me back when dinosaurs roamed the earth ...

A wet blade cuts rubber (including foam) far easier and more cleanly than a dry one.

I either keep dipping my hole-cutter in water, or (better yet) get the foam block dripping wet before cutting.

Tip for dummies: let the foam dry out before you put your EPs in it!

-- Tim
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Tim A.]
      #3450912 - 11/16/09 09:53 AM

Next Question. Where do you get the foam to start with?

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: David Allen]
      #3450928 - 11/16/09 09:58 AM

Quote:

Next Question. Where do you get the foam to start with?




Yonder:

http://www.foambymail.com/
http://www.foamerica.com/

-Dan


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #3457593 - 11/19/09 06:39 PM

Electric carving knives work well for stright cuts. They may even be on sale after thanksgiving...

I've used unmodified plastic bolt cases to make round holes. Just push and twist.


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5040078 - 01/26/12 10:48 PM

re: I used this tip a while back and it worked great!


I don't quite follow how to make the rectangular holes in your post. How are they made?


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5040080 - 01/26/12 10:50 PM

What a great case you made!

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Midnight Dan
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Joe_C]
      #5040085 - 01/26/12 10:51 PM

Hi Joe:

I just made those with a sharp knife. I actually used a fisherman's filet knife. Slow, careful cutting using many passes worked for me. Nice job to tackle while you're watching TV.

-Dan


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5497652 - 10/31/12 12:01 PM

Thanks Dan for your post. Where did you get the case from? I like the adjustable slots.
Sbob


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #5498027 - 10/31/12 04:17 PM

Hi Sbob:

Got the case at Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/18-x-13-x-6-aluminum-case-69...

Not sure what you mean by adjustable slots? I made the slots to fit my eyepieces and other gear. Here's a pic of it loaded up:


-Dan


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Mike E.
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5498149 - 10/31/12 05:42 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

You can also use empty arisol cans, the wall thickness is about the same as a razorblade.

Here are a couple of photos.


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Mike E.
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5498154 - 10/31/12 05:43 PM Attachment (32 downloads)

Cuts a perfect hole in solid foam, and an almost perfect one in pluck foam; as shown.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5500128 - 11/01/12 11:00 PM

May I ask how you cut the foam so you could lay the eyepieces flat instead of up and down? And is there any local retail store that I can get foam from? Did you know how deep to cut like measuring each eyepiece? It looks very amazing and I would like to try this!!

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Midnight Dan
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Metalmanstan]
      #5500465 - 11/02/12 07:04 AM

Hi Metanmanstan:

For the rectangular cuts I just use a very sharp, stiff knife like a fishing filet knife and take my time. I cut the rectangular plug all the way through the foam to start with. If I need a hole that is not the full depth, then I cut a slice off the bottom of the plug and put it back in the bottom of the hole.

I couldn't find any local stores for the foam so I bought it online. Links are in my posts above.
-Dan


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Mike E.
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5500468 - 11/02/12 07:10 AM

Foam remnants, large enough for eyepiece cases are often available at upholstery shops.

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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: John J]
      #5500546 - 11/02/12 08:43 AM

For vertical eyepiece storage take your eyepieces, load them into a rail gun and blast them through the foam. Perfect holes every time. Remember to fold the eye cups down first.

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Tom McDonald
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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: BSJ]
      #5502738 - 11/03/12 06:01 PM

"Electric carving knives work well for stright cuts. They may even be on sale after thanksgiving..."

They still make and sell them??
Haven't seen one since I guess the '60's or early '70's!
Never missed the one my mother bought way back when. I'd rather use a "real" knife!
Didn't mean to hijack the thread...I'm old.


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Re: Make Perfect Holes For eyepieces....How to new [Re: Tom McDonald]
      #5503324 - 11/04/12 01:10 AM

You can get electric carving knives at Walmart for $10 in the kitchen section. I use them for cleaning fish, and they beat heck out of the overpriced Rapalla knives and others that are supposedly made for fishing.

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