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werewolf6977
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Re: Meade new [Re: Michael Cox]
      #2850140 - 01/07/09 07:56 PM

I'm going to move this to the ETX forum, but if the ccd doesn't work thru the ota, what use is it?? Sounds like a marketing ploy to me, IMHO.

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Re: Meade new [Re: Michael Cox]
      #2850348 - 01/07/09 09:34 PM

I also thought about a pre-order in early December, and after reading about how the camera really works, I decided otherwise. The idea of doing astro-imaging without a laptop seemed appealing. Too good to be true in this case.
Astronomics web site has the best description of this scope I've found. The standard Meade jargon found on most other sites, plus lots more.

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Re: Meade new [Re: Michael Cox]
      #2864198 - 01/14/09 11:48 AM

The ccd camera doesn't go through the tubes optics!
It has it's own (small) lens. It's like a piggyback webcam.
Don't expect much from it.

Edited by meltdown (01/14/09 11:50 AM)


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Re: Meade new [Re: meltdown]
      #2864287 - 01/14/09 12:25 PM

Well, in order to go through the tube optics, they'd have needed to install a flip mirror or some prism gizmo that would send the image to two sources at once. (The latter not being a good idea)

Hopefully, S&T or some astronomy mag will do a full review. I have a friend who attended CES and he told me they really had no way to demo it since it was inside a building during the daytime. He also said it looks all to be all made of plastic.

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Re: Meade new [Re: Starlighter]
      #2866159 - 01/15/09 08:05 AM

Quote:

I have a friend who attended CES and he told me they really had no way to demo it since it was inside a building during the daytime. He also said it looks all to be all made of plastic.




I doubt it, especially since Meade intends to use this mount for larger OTAs. Looking at the Meade ETX125 PE, you'd think "all plastic" as well, but the fork is actually aluminim; the plastic is just an outer covering. Same goes for many of Celestron's telescopes.

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Re: Meade new [Re: rmollise]
      #2866288 - 01/15/09 09:45 AM

I thought the same thing about my original DS-2130. From what I could see (and the price) I assumed the mount was all plastic. I was pleastantly surprised to find the single-arm fork assembly was a finished aluminum casting. It has proven to be very solid and stable.

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Re: Meade new [Re: star drop]
      #2914257 - 02/07/09 09:37 PM

The present meade GOTO system seems to rely on Magnetic north for it's alignments. If this the case for the new scope, it will still have the magnetic North declination problems of the original ETX's. That is, the farther north the observing site, the farther east or west the scope will think the aligning star is located. For the US, this could be errors in the tens of degrees. The inexperienced will still have to learn their stars and constellations to use something with that magnitude of error.

Edited by Jim10 (02/07/09 09:59 PM)


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Re: Meade new [Re: Jim10]
      #2914276 - 02/07/09 09:48 PM

It also has a huge center obstruction. That I don't like. The CO on my 6SE is big enough. Looking at the full moon I can sometimes see it as a lack of contrast in the middle.

Properly corrected ED and APO refractors are far better for viewing the moon.

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Re: Meade new [Re: Jim10]
      #2914842 - 02/08/09 09:09 AM

Quote:

The present meade GOTO system seems to rely on Magnetic north for it's alignments. If this the case for the new scope, it will still have the magnetic North declination problems of the original ETX's. That is, the farther north the observing site, the farther east or west the scope will think the aligning star is located. For the US, this could be errors in the tens of degrees. The inexperienced will still have to learn their stars and constellations to use something with that magnitude of error.



Why?
Does not the alignment process (two stars) line things up?
My goto is spot-on.

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Re: Meade [Re: pullin-gs]
      #2914982 - 02/08/09 10:44 AM

This should only affect the initial guess where the Autostar thinks the alignment stars are located. If you center the alignment stars as instructed it should work fine.

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