TheMenace
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ADM vs Losmandy
#2951562 - 02/26/09 06:41 PM
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I ordered a dual saddle plate a few weeks ago from ADM,arrived in a few days.
Ordered a losmandy dm10 setup last week from a dealer,dropped shipped from losmandy,and am still awaiting it's arrival.
The shipping was more expensive from ADM,but they provided me a tracking number almost immediately.
Maybe the dm10 is not a popular item?
Anyone else waiting for a shipment from losmandy?
blocks included with dm8
Edited by TheMenace (02/27/09 07:46 PM)
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celestial_search
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2951668 - 02/26/09 07:46 PM
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When I ordered my Losmandy dual saddle I made sure the dealer had it in stock. When I visited with one dealer that told me "we can get it from Losmandy" I replied "those guys seem to take their sweet time." He replied "yea they do."
I almost bought a G11 mount from them a few years ago, but the more research I did the more I learned that the wait is always longer than claimed.
Good luck.
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billetman
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2951835 - 02/26/09 09:09 PM
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No ones perfect I have had issues with both of them. Quality Losmandy. Service ADM.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952296 - 02/27/09 04:16 AM
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The radius blocks do not line up correctly on my ota.
Edited by TheMenace (02/27/09 07:48 PM)
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Joe Bruessow
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952355 - 02/27/09 06:09 AM
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I think when dealing with a manufacturer like Losmandy you need to be patient... They are not a mass producer like Celestron or Meade, but serve a niche between mass produced and very high end prices. Thier production schedule also seems similar... wait months, but not years to get your items.
They turn out a very good product for the money though... worth the wait if you can be patient enough (and often one dealer or another will have what you are looking for in stock).
Just a couple of thoughts... good luck.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952374 - 02/27/09 06:25 AM
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If they just mentioned the parts would be delayed,built,ordered etc,would be one thing.
To list parts in stock,then send a notice,dropped shipped from manufacture,is not very good business practice.
I have 2 ota's sitting here doing nothing,waiting on $100 dove tail bars.
I guess it's my own fault for not doing enough research.
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Eddy
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952440 - 02/27/09 07:47 AM
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Hi,
I cannot tell you about Losmandy, but I can tell you that Anthony is doing everything possible to help you. If required, he custom drills holes in your plates/saddle etc...
On top of that, all his accessories are top quality.
 
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LLEEGE
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
[Re: TheMenace]
#2952463 - 02/27/09 08:11 AM
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If they just mentioned the parts would be delayed,built,ordered etc,would be one thing.
To list parts in stock,then send a notice,dropped shipped from manufacture,is not very good business practice.
I have 2 ota's sitting here doing nothing,waiting on $100 dove tail bars.
I guess it's my own fault for not doing enough research.
You can't fault Losmandy for how a dealer markets their product.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952483 - 02/27/09 08:31 AM
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I'm guessing nobody stocks Losmandy parts.
The different sized radius blocks have me stumped.
Edited by TheMenace (02/27/09 07:50 PM)
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RAKing
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952493 - 02/27/09 08:38 AM
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I have dealt with both of these companies and both produce excellent products.
Please keep in mind that astronomy is NOT what buys the groceries for Losmandy. He works in the motion picture industry and if there is a big production underway, he might not be able to squeeze any astro production out of his little shop. Have you tried calling? I got better results with the phone than with email.
Ron
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jrcrilly
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952495 - 02/27/09 08:40 AM
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I'm guessing nobody stocks Losmandy parts.
I don't think that anyone does stock Losmandy parts. Accessories such as dovetail plates, on the other hand, are usually available off the shelf from their dealers - at least, I've always been able to purchase them that way without delay. Your dealer was apparently out of that particular item; no need to read anything sinister into that. I'd try another dealer.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952504 - 02/27/09 08:49 AM
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Thanks for the company history and the support.
Now where is my desert eagle?
I'm going to make something useful out of my losmandy parts.
 
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Jeff55
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952519 - 02/27/09 09:01 AM
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Scott can move slowly based on the duality of his business model. What concerned me was the poor quality of the parts I've received lately from his shop. I've had to return several items before I got one decently machined.
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islandsteve11
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2952705 - 02/27/09 11:04 AM
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Two days before Christmas, I sent ADM an email asking about the compatablilty of one of his items with my equipment. On the afternoon of Christmas Day, I recieved a reply from owner Anthony Divoli informing me that it was not compatible. Anthony's a class act and I'll gladly do business with him in the future.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2953589 - 02/27/09 06:22 PM
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Partially solved my problem this evening.
The dm10 arrived with almost the same setup as the dm8.
The brackets that came with each setup (1 short+ 1 long) do not line up with the holes on my ota.
Pairing the brackets with a matched pair fixed my problem.
Both my ota's are deforked versions.
Anyone know if the ota only version has different spacing on the SCT housing than a fork mounted model?
I really doubt it as the blocks fit both my 8" and 10" meade SCT,although the radius of the blocks are slightly different.
The problem would still be haunting me if I didn't order both sets of plates and radius blocks.
Anyone have a photo of ADM radius blocks for meade SCT"S?
Photo showing dm10 installed with extra blocks left over.
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Kolenka
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
[Re: TheMenace]
#2954295 - 02/28/09 04:16 AM
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Something seems weird, because the blocks you show seem to work just fine on my OTA. In my case though, only two of the holes are used to attach the block to the OTA.
The very outermost holes in the long block are used to attach to the OTA, while the center hole may not even be used. The two next to the outermost are there to help attach the dovetail plate to the block. The blocks themselves would go either on the top or the bottom of the OTA, where the bottom is right underneath the handle on rear-cell of the OTA.
Mine is a deforked 10" LX200, and those long blocks fit perfectly.
EDIT: Could you maybe post a slightly zoomed-out view of the OTA? It actually looks like you tried to mount the blocks slightly off-center now that I take another look. There are 3 screws on the bottom, and the long block attaches to the two outer screws (and the center needs to be removed), while the short block attaches to just the center screw (and the outer screws also need to be removed).
Edited by Kolenka (02/28/09 04:33 AM)
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2954304 - 02/28/09 04:35 AM
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You are correct.
Two holes mount the ota to the blocks,the other two holes mount the dove tail to the blocks.
The larger blocks use all three screws to attach to the ota.
This works both on my 8" and 10" ota,which are both x fork mounted telescopes.
If I use the set as received,the dove tail will not line up on both ends of the tube.
Losmandy sent me a reply saying the holes aren't supposed to line up,but both my ota's don't fit that description.
I believe my OTA"s are from the late 80's to early 90's.
 
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Kolenka
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2954306 - 02/28/09 04:39 AM
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I know in my case when installing the blocks, I couldn't tighten down the blocks at first. I had to get them loosely in place first, and then get the dovetail plate into place while they were still loose. Then with the dovetail plate in place, I could tighten the two blocks.
Again, with the short block, I had to attach it to the center screw only. Otherwise it wouldn't be centered with the long block. The small block /looks/ like it is designed to take more screws, but it doesn't seem to really be that way.
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TheMenace
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
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#2954318 - 02/28/09 04:58 AM
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Try again.
If you align the blocks and use the two outer center holes,you should see that they fit the ota perfectly,but they will not line up with the larger blocks.
Attaching the heavy dove tail and blocks to a 10" ota,using only one screw is a big accident waiting to happen.
You might get by on the 8" ota,but why risk dropping my telescope by using only one mounting screw.
By sending a matched set of blocks,this could easily be avoided.
Maybe the newer LX 200 R has different spacing and hole placement?
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RAKing
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Re: ADM vs Losmandy
[Re: TheMenace]
#2954469 - 02/28/09 08:49 AM
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Maybe the newer LX 200 R has different spacing and hole placement?
I would not be surprised. The manufacturers do this at times and the accessory vendors cannot always keep up.
Anthony sent me a dovetail set for my C8 OTA and it didn't match the hole spacing on my newer OTA. It fit my older tube perfectly (I have two).
It looks like Celestron has a different drilling pattern if the OTA was originally equipped with a CGE dovetail or a Vixen dovetail. Or they changed things during the past few years. Meade might have done the same. I'll have to ream out the holes in the blocks for the narrower spacing in order to attach the blocks and dovetail to the new OTA.
Ron
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