· Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu… uh, User You are not logged in. [Login] Entrance · Main Index · Search · New user · Who's Online FAQ · Calendar Astrophotography and Sketching >> Sketching Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) varmint I invite more abuse Reged: 02/10/07 Loc: Pacifica, CA, USA Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch       #2993358 - 03/19/09 08:53 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hello all, per a previous discussion I thought I'd try and foster some targeted project work here in the sketching forum. The target I'd like to see sketched this month (well, let's say through April) would be the Leo Triplet of Galaxies: M65, M66 and NGC 3628. Any medium or techniques go (we may ask for more specifics in a later month depending on involvement and enthusiasm for us newbs to learn new things!). Unfortunately I can't start us off on this adventure with an example as I've been sick, have had terrible weather, dealing with too much stuff at work, and the obligatory being sick of dealing with work and the weather... Everyone/anyone can post their sketches here, ask for pointers, etc. I hope this ends up being a fun project for everyone. Post Extras:       TenthEnemy scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 01/21/08 Loc: Maryland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: varmint]       #2996746 - 03/21/09 05:37 PM Attachment (99 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Done with graphite on white paper. They were kind of low in the sky when I sketched this, but transparency was very good; I saw spiral structure in M51 and M81 later that night. I probably should have waited until they were higher up to sketch them... Hmm... I hope I'm not going to be the only participant here. Post Extras:       varmint I invite more abuse Reged: 02/10/07 Loc: Pacifica, CA, USA Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: TenthEnemy]       #2997127 - 03/21/09 08:59 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   TenthEnemy, I'll definitely participate if this weather of mine ever gives me a good break. There's a chance I can post my first attempt tomorrow. One thing I really like about this Trio, that I think you captured well is that they can form a smiley face... at least that's what it always looked like to me. That's great that you go to see some spiral structure as well, I hope to be so lucky. Post Extras:       TenthEnemy scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 01/21/08 Loc: Maryland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: varmint]       #2997427 - 03/22/09 12:58 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think they look like a sad face , not a smiley face. I think there is a similar formation in the Virgo cluster somewhere. They're definitely some funny looking galaxies, I started laughing the first time I managed to see NGC 3628. Post Extras:       TahaSiddiqui super member Reged: 10/09/08 Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: TenthEnemy]       #2997480 - 03/22/09 01:51 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Nice sketch TenthEnemy, I like how realistic it looks . Post Extras:       rolandlinda3 Post Laureate Reged: 01/24/06 Loc: Crozet VA 22932 Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: TenthEnemy]       #2997750 - 03/22/09 09:40 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Good sketch. You won't be. Will try tonight and I am sure others will. Roland Post Extras:       JayinUT I'm not Sleepy Reged: 09/19/08 Loc: Utah Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: rolandlinda3]       #2997950 - 03/22/09 11:03 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Tenth, I really like your sketch and capture of all three galaxies. I'll try but its not looking good for over the next 7 days weather wise. My last observation of the triplet was January 30, 2009. I'll post when I can grab a good look at them. Edited by JayinUT (03/22/09 11:09 AM) Post Extras:       Demelza sage Reged: 05/07/06 Loc: The Netherlands Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: JayinUT]       #2998645 - 03/22/09 05:53 PM Attachment (86 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Well... A few days ago I've made a sketch of the Leo Triplet. I'm afraid I have to call it the Leo Duo... The conditions where not very good... Edited by Demelza (03/22/09 05:53 PM) Post Extras:       cildarith Carpal Tunnel Reged: 08/26/04 Loc: San Diego, CA Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: Demelza]       #2999250 - 03/23/09 12:08 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Very nice renditions 10th E and Demelza! The members of the Leo Triplet are far enough apart that I usually sketch them individually rather than as a group. Post Extras:       CarlosEH Postmaster Reged: 01/19/05 Loc: Pembroke Pines, Broward County... Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: cildarith]       #2999471 - 03/23/09 05:12 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Excellent observations of the Leo Triplet (M65, M66, and NGC 3628). This is an interesting trio to observe. Thank you for sharing them with us all. Carlos Post Extras:       Jeff Young Post Laureate Reged: 08/04/05 Loc: Ireland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: CarlosEH]       #2999686 - 03/23/09 09:49 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I do intend to take part in this if my weather ever breaks. Like Eric I can't fit all three in a single field with my primary instrument, but I was considering doing a composite sketch: I could start with the field stars using my 4" refractor, and then fill in the galaxy details with the 16" Mak. I'm a bit unsure of this approach as it kind of goes against my normal "this is what I see in the eyepiece" mantra, but it'd be an intersting experiment (which certainly seems in tune with this thread). Anyway, just to keep things rolling here's the NGC member from last year with my old scope: Cheers, -- Jeff. Post Extras:       rolandlinda3 Post Laureate Reged: 01/24/06 Loc: Crozet VA 22932 Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: Jeff Young]       #3000033 - 03/23/09 01:00 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   The story is in a separate thread posted 3/23. Our sky conditions (not too bad) and some haze/sky glow and my older eyes meant that the NGC object was just barely noticeable with averted vision. The scene took up less than 1/2 the field of view of the 22mm Panoptic. The sketch developed from astro video took up all of the screen. As the NGC object was slipping off one side of the screen (after 30 minutes) then the other two came in view since my LXD75 tripod is not perfect. However, the astro-video study was well worth the wait since the details of the objects were a real pleasure to study. A Night with the Trio Roland Post Extras:       Jeff Young Post Laureate Reged: 08/04/05 Loc: Ireland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: rolandlinda3]       #3000328 - 03/23/09 02:49 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Roland -- Fastastic detail you're getting with that Mallincam! I've got a buddy over in England who does his sketching with a 14" Newt and a Watec video camera, and he's getting really impressive results as well. Me thinks there might have to be one of those doohickies in my future.... Cheers, -- Jeff. Post Extras:       yann pothier member Reged: 10/16/07 Loc: Paris, France Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: varmint]       #3001611 - 03/24/09 03:46 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   This is the only large view of the triplet I have in my files. This was done with a 70mm refractor (F/5) at 58x, on april 9, 2004 under rural sky with limiting magnitude about 5.6 Post Extras:       varmint I invite more abuse Reged: 02/10/07 Loc: Pacifica, CA, USA Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: yann pothier]       #3001910 - 03/24/09 10:19 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Wow, great sketches everyone. I attempted to capture these three last night but ran into a host of problems, the major one being that I didn't realize just how faint these guys are! I guess I got spoiled last year looking through larger instruments at darker skies! My setup should frame the three pretty well. My C9.25 with 31mm Nagler should show all three, but I could only barely discern M65 and M66, NGC36286 was nowhere to be seen. That's when I started encountering my problems: dew. On EP's and on my corrector plate (I had adjusted collimation and that wrecked me for the evening). I used my 80ED with 9mm Nagler which gave me approximately the same FOV (a little wider, but pretty close). M65 and M66 were faint hazy "stars" with averted vision. I'm guessing my transparency and the light pollution helped washed them out too much. I am planning on going to a dark site on Saturday to do the Messier Marathon, if there's a reasonable break I'll try to sketch them this weekend. I'm happy to see so many folks participating! Hopefully folks are finding this a fun exercise? I am, even with the lack of production. Post Extras:       CarlosEH Postmaster Reged: 01/19/05 Loc: Pembroke Pines, Broward County... Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: varmint]       #3002464 - 03/24/09 03:41 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Jeff and Yann, Excellent observations of NGC 3628 and the Leo Triplet. Thank you for sharing them with us all. Carlos Post Extras:       Jeff Young Post Laureate Reged: 08/04/05 Loc: Ireland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: CarlosEH]       #3002562 - 03/24/09 04:51 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks, Carlos and Jim! Here's last night's installment: When combined with another from last year, it gives me the full set: The plan is to create a composite "at-the-desk" sketch, using the existing "at-the-eyepiece" sketches as source material. (Mark Seibold has been encouraging me to experiment with larger scale, so this might just be my opportunity.) I didn't get a chance to do a wide-angle field star sketch through my 4" refractor, though. Since the composite will be an at-the-desk exercise, would it be "appropriate" to sketch the wide-angle field stars from a planetarium program? Or do folks think all the elements of the composite need to be done at the eyepiece, even if the composite itself isn't? -- Jeff. Post Extras:       TenthEnemy scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 01/21/08 Loc: Maryland Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: Jeff Young]       #3002792 - 03/24/09 07:26 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I don't see any reason you need to draw the rest of the starfield at the eyepiece. Just draw down to the faintest star in your current sketches. You already sketched the important parts at the EP. Those are very nice sketches, can't wait to see them all put together. Post Extras:       starquake sage Reged: 02/02/08 Loc: Nádasdladány Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: TenthEnemy]       #3003468 - 03/25/09 02:32 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   my leo triplet (the traditional one): (12" newt, 45x, 2008.03.31) and a bonus leo triplet: from left to right: ngc 3222, 3226 and 3227 Post Extras:       CarlosEH Postmaster Reged: 01/19/05 Loc: Pembroke Pines, Broward County... Re: Show me your Current Leo Triplet Sketch [Re: starquake]       #3005959 - 03/26/09 02:40 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Ferenc and Jeff, Excellent observations of the M65/M66/NGC 3628. You have captured much detail over these interesting springtime galaxies. Thank you for sharing them with us all. Carlos Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 0 registered and 3 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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