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Max Lattanzi
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Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950)
      #3001803 - 03/24/09 09:12 AM Attachment (183 downloads)

Hi All,

I guess you all may be glad to see this wonderful instrument that got to me in perfect working conditions (actually I drove 2.150 km to collect it...) and which need just minor make-up. It belonged to a German scientist, Hellmut Claußnitzer (I got to know the family: they are really nice people), an engineer who worked jointly with the phisicist Manfred von Ardenne.

This was used in the observatory of their Institute in Dresden, in early 50s, as per photo attached.
Not only the AS-80/1200 in the original Zeiss tube is a *real* work of art (have a look at the focuser) but the rare I-a mount is an amazing piece of mechanics that resamble to a Swiss... mmm... German watch...!

Of course I have to come up with a whole page on this instrument, but I thought it would be nice to already share some images here... Just in case Robert is interested in something...;)
So, let's start !

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001808 - 03/24/09 09:14 AM Attachment (136 downloads)

This wonderful baby in its case... moving...!
I am soooo glad it did not get lost...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001810 - 03/24/09 09:16 AM Attachment (109 downloads)

Eyepieces box. Some are around...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001817 - 03/24/09 09:17 AM Attachment (114 downloads)

Detail of the focuser and the half-bino finder...!

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001821 - 03/24/09 09:19 AM Attachment (98 downloads)

The focuser fully extended with graduation... more on this later...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001829 - 03/24/09 09:21 AM Attachment (93 downloads)

The instrument is now out of the box. I started minor cleaning.
Again the focuser.

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001835 - 03/24/09 09:24 AM Attachment (101 downloads)

Zoom on the vernier scale...!

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001842 - 03/24/09 09:26 AM Attachment (101 downloads)

How would I put it: "Picture yourself at the controls of this Zeiss...!"

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001846 - 03/24/09 09:28 AM Attachment (87 downloads)

Zeiss Turret (reverse side)...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001848 - 03/24/09 09:32 AM Attachment (95 downloads)

The Zeiss I-a. What a beauty... and it works perfectly well...!

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001851 - 03/24/09 09:33 AM Attachment (82 downloads)

Zeiss I-a, reverse view...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001858 - 03/24/09 09:35 AM Attachment (99 downloads)

The pier-mounted instrument (indoor, for the time being).

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3001873 - 03/24/09 09:49 AM

Well, that's all for now.

I already tested the instrument and, as the two other Q1 AS-80/1200 I tested/owned, it's callenging the 4" modern apos I put nearby -- apart from the dimmer image (this is uncoated), resolutionwise is really a toss-up. More later.

I am so glad I was given the opportunity to preserve this wonderful piece of optomechanics -- not to mention a niece piece of history. Hope you like it !

Thanks

Max


PS/ For Paolo "the Milanese": I was not scratching my belly, rather on a business trip...

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3002038 - 03/24/09 11:48 AM



These are the beautiful things from those big boys will ever dream!
Fantastic authentic condition of a perfect Zeiss telescope.
Please keep this wonderful patina!
Congratulations, Max!

Many Greetings from Germany

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Dan /schechter
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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Gerd]
      #3002100 - 03/24/09 12:31 PM

Max, Wow!!! I have a E 80/1200 that dates from around 1910 and is machined like a tank and also produces wonderful images. However, I do not have the mount it originally came with, so I mount it on a modern mount with rings. It`s very fun to own.

Congratulations and please keep the pictures coming.

Dan

Edited by Dan /schechter (03/24/09 12:41 PM)


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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Dan /schechter]
      #3002152 - 03/24/09 12:56 PM

I never saw a turret with the wild color filter wheels like that before. Fantastic!! And a beautiful instrument!!!

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Dr Morbius]
      #3002313 - 03/24/09 02:18 PM

Wow, wow, wow! The workmanship is tremendous, and all the accessories. Truly unusual! Thanks for sharing. Is it ok if I download those pictures for my album of other people's cool scopes? Rich

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Gerd]
      #3003555 - 03/25/09 05:20 AM

Quote:

Fantastic authentic condition of a perfect Zeiss telescope.
Please keep this wonderful patina!



Hi Gerd,

I shall...

Ciao !
Max

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: woodsman]
      #3003558 - 03/25/09 05:22 AM

Quote:

Is it ok if I download those pictures for my album of other people's cool scopes? Rich



Rich,

Sure ! Go ahead...!
Thanks

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3003918 - 03/25/09 10:40 AM

Thank you Max..

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: woodsman]
      #3005164 - 03/26/09 02:38 AM

Excellent, and thanks for posting .

The color filter wheels are a new one on me, too. Very nice.

I don't believe I've ever seen a commercial scope with half a binocular as a finder. Is it stock ?

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: trainsktg]
      #3005262 - 03/26/09 06:01 AM

Hi Keith

Yes, the half-binocular finder is indeed stock. Zeiss has used those for finderscopes from before WW1 to the early 70'ies.


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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: trainsktg]
      #3005292 - 03/26/09 07:01 AM

Quote:

The color filter wheels are a new one on me, too. Very nice.



Hi Keith, wait and see the AS-100/1000 of the 60s I'm almost finished with. Hopefully this w/e at the Obs...

Max

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #3005295 - 03/26/09 07:05 AM

Quote:

Yes, the half-binocular finder is indeed stock. Zeiss has used those for finderscopes from before WW1 to the early 70'ies.




That's right. You may also see them on the 1920 Zeiss catalogues that John Pons gave to Rober for the Classic Telescope site.

Max

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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Max Lattanzi]
      #3005687 - 03/26/09 12:20 PM

Hi Max

I have a borrowed copy of that catalogue, German edition, from, I believe 1916 (but it could be 1920 as well).

I intend to scan it, and send the files to Robert Provin's site, but my scanner has some troubles I'm working on.


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Re: Zeiss AS-80/1200 on Zeiss I-a Mount (ca. 1950) new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #3006475 - 03/26/09 06:50 PM

Hi Thomas,

As a matter of fact, I know someone with the original one.
My scanner is working fine but so far it has been very difficult to get that piece of literature closer to my desk...
Looking forward though...
Shall keep you posted...!

Cheers,

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