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rwiederrich
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Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror
      #3134603 - 05/29/09 05:06 PM Attachment (137 downloads)

A fellow member has asked me to assist him in the fabrication of his 1" X 12.5" plate glass blank into an f/6 mirror.

After a week or so of distraction...I tooled it up on the polisher and began grinding out the sagitta. Left to itself most of the day with a water drip..I cut the near 5mm sagittal depth. Here are some initial pics of the job being done on my porter polishing machine.

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3134608 - 05/29/09 05:09 PM Attachment (104 downloads)

A bit closer view of the diamond blade doing its business.

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3134633 - 05/29/09 05:30 PM

Wow thats so cool to see.....thats got my blood pumping again,lol.

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3134732 - 05/29/09 06:49 PM

Quote:

Wow thats so cool to see.....thats got my blood pumping again,lol.




Aint it fun......

I'll double check the sagittal depth before I make the stone grinding tool....it was nearly close and it might even be a bit deaper then I intended(no problem)...it's all good.

Glad your blood's pumping again....

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3136074 - 05/30/09 03:40 PM

if its slightly less than f/6 it doesnt matter.Its all good,lol

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3140809 - 06/01/09 09:57 PM

Any updates?

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3144046 - 06/03/09 04:50 PM

guess not...lol

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3144320 - 06/03/09 07:34 PM

Quote:

guess not...lol




Sorry bro...I'm in the middle of a move...so I'll get to it a bit later. Its full groung to the correct sagitta..just got to make the penny tool for fine grinding.

Believe me...I'll keep you in touch with every step. I'm done working on my 10"f/16 for now...so your mirror will be on the dockets for my attention....

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3144443 - 06/03/09 08:47 PM

I thought you lived at GOMOC...LOL.where moving to?

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3152703 - 06/08/09 05:25 PM



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Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3153756 - 06/09/09 10:29 AM

Quote:

I thought you lived at GOMOC...LOL.where moving to?




I do...my office is next to my house...I have to move from my house to my office... The slowing economy has me making life changes. I'm not selling it, just renting it.

The kids have and are moving away so life needs less house to survive. I still have my shops and my scope making ability...just more cramped.

I'm sorry I haven't worked on your mirror for some time...but I simply do not have the time currently. I did unload that monster 4 tub mirror making machine from my horse trailor..yesterday(cuz I'm selling the trailor too).

That thing will be great when making several mirrors/lenses at the same time. It is pre WW2 and is built like a tank. It weighs more then 1500lb. It is so nifty how it works and operates.

I'll get back to scope making when I get fully moved....no worries. I still haven't opened that package you sent...I'm holding off till I feal satisfied with the mirror...just in case.

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3155083 - 06/09/09 11:44 PM

I wish you would open that box and at least inspectthe contents.So I can quit worrying that something is wrong with it.,hehehehehehehehe

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3160131 - 06/13/09 02:07 AM



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102mm Celestron C102HD
Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3160865 - 06/13/09 03:00 PM

I'm sure everything is fine.....it looks like you used the original box....

I'll make the fine grinding lap next week.

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3169299 - 06/18/09 08:58 AM

sweet look forward to seeing it.

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Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3176408 - 06/22/09 02:06 PM

back from the star party.Hope you had a good shoot.

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Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
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1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3176440 - 06/22/09 02:26 PM

Quote:

back from the star party.Hope you had a good shoot.




Yes...I have been monitoring that thread line through out its duration....Did you have a good time...

Sure you did..

I canceled that too...it rained/hailed so hard any outdoor activity was unadvisable....

I'm aiming for next weekend..but that too looks funky.

I might just have to default to my Aug 15th date and leave it at that.

I worked on your mirror a bit more the other day. I needed to work on the sagitta a bit more..cuz I actually needed to make it deeper...

I'm tinkering....still.

Rob

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: rwiederrich]
      #3177119 - 06/22/09 08:52 PM

I picked up the remains of Jasons (undermidnight) 12.5 inch ball scope.
The mirror cell will have to be fit dead center on an 18 inch back plate.
This thing is so cool, long rods that thread into the back plate which allow collimation from the top, how cool is that.
Jason was using commercial truss poles with ball on theyre ends, Ill have to work on that, as I doubt they were cheap.
And Ill need ot find 2 inch focuser some how.
Any ways take care.

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Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror new [Re: droid]
      #3177430 - 06/22/09 11:46 PM

Andy,

The focuser was a Kineoptics HC-2 (www.kineoptics.com) and the truss system was from Moonlight (www.focuser.com). The truss system is not cheap, but worth it.

The mirror cell should be good to use for your mirror, you would just have to make an 18 point cell for it. The three holes in the mirror cell would be a good starting point

As you embark on the madness.. er.. uh... adventure of making your own scope, let me know how I can help.

Jason

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Re: Finally getting to Droid's 12.5" mirror [Re: Undermidnight]
      #3183783 - 06/26/09 10:50 AM Attachment (24 downloads)

ok Jason your on , I have lots of questions....first up.

There arethree studs sticking up out of the bottem plate of the mirror cell, why??
Also...there are three of those little hammer in screw thingys, ones missing, an issue?
And last but not least in this photo.....the other three holes evenly spaced are I assume where the collimation roda screw in??

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Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?

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