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SyedRaza
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Book on Star hopping
      #3143859 - 06/03/09 03:24 PM

Hi

Can someone recommend a good book on star hopping. I want something like Sue French's "celestial sampler" ,but for big aperture telescopes.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: SyedRaza]
      #3144015 - 06/03/09 04:31 PM

Alan MacRobert's "Star Hopping for the Backyard Astronomer" (out of print, but available). For small - medium apertures.
For bigger stuff, the "Night Sky Observer's Guide" by Kepple and Sanner (3 volumes, one strictly southern hemisphere). Maps, descriptions for several sizes of telescopes - pretty much the standard reference today.

The NGC2000 is great - Dreyer's coded descriptions are easy to read and information-packed. $15 at S&T last I looked.

Beyond that, you get into atlases and catalogs of DSOs, and figure your own star-hops.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #3144734 - 06/03/09 11:47 PM

Another worthwhile book on the topic is Robert Garfinkle's Star-Hopping: Your Visa to Viewing the Universe.

http://www.cambridge.org/us/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=052141590x

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SyedRaza
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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #3145371 - 06/04/09 11:59 AM

Thanks for the answers,

are the books "Night Sky Observer's Guide" by Kepple and Sanner" and "Robert Garfinkle's Star-Hopping: Your Visa to Viewing the Universe" as easily understandable as the "Celestial Sampler by Sue French" ? because I feel it's hard to understand giant books.

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Syed

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: SyedRaza]
      #3145409 - 06/04/09 12:31 PM

The NSOG isn't really a book about star-hopping as such but it is the best reference for DSO observing currently available. Star-Hopping: Your Visa to Viewing the Universe is mostly text.

Alan MacRobert's book is similar to Celestial Sampler and is highly recommended. I did all of his star-hops, which first appeared as articles in Sky & Telescope, many years ago and enjoyed them very much. I had hoped that a second volume would be published but that never happened.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #3146693 - 06/05/09 01:43 AM

I really like "Turn Left at Orion" which is generally available for less than about 30 bucks. Aimed at small telescopes but very useful for all.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: TomN]
      #3147156 - 06/05/09 12:05 PM

While it's not a how-to book, a great compact resource/list/atals for star hopping is "The Observer Sky Atlas"

It's great for star-hoppers because of the way each page is layed out-- the left page lists the nebulae, galaxies, stars, variable stars and doubles (with interesting and relevant information, including verble descriptions of the DSO's, distances and true size in light years) that appear on the right page, which has 2 components: a constellation wide view to mag 6, and close-up 'bubbles' to mag 9 for star hopping accurately. It's the close ups that make this atlas so usefull for hopping-- other atlases are laid out with similar left and right pages, but typicaly don't have enough resolution to hop by means other than the geometric method (where you just point your 1X finder (Rigel, Telrad etc) in the proper place relative to nearby bright stars, usually looking for geometric shapes to create, triangles mostly). This atlas has enough resolution to carefully hop using your finder scope, yet also easily supports the geometric method.

The objects listed are great for all scopes, particularly 3-6" (and, as such, is an pretty complete list of the best and brightest in any larger scope), and contain all Messiers, most in not all Caldwell (though not by that designation), several that are neither, and the best double and variable stars. The deep sky objects contain many bright objects, yet some challenging ones as well. The double stars contain doubles ranging from super easy but pretty to challenging sub-arcsecond doubles. Orbital rates are included when known, along with year-specific angular estimates on doubles that change rapidly (like Porrima).

The intro chapters are very informative on general astronomy.

The index provides a single all-sky-all-season sky chart to easily direct you to the proper page for the area of the sky you're interested in. Object are cross referenced by Messier, NGC, and names for those with proper names (like "Whirlpool").

It's small enough to hold in one hand while you look back and forth between the atlas and the finder-- easily turned (inverted) to match the view in the finder.

It's one of the few stand alone atlases that can easily be used at the scope, with enough detail to hop accurately, yet wide enough fields to get your bearings, while still containing far more than just the most basic objects (and, at the same time, none of the objects that really require really large aperture (larger than 16") to appreciate, as is the case with the Kepple and Sanner atlases). It's one of my favorites.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: SyedRaza]
      #3147222 - 06/05/09 01:00 PM

An excerpt from Robert Garfinkle's book is posted at http://messier.obspm.fr/more/virgo_obs.html

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: SyedRaza]
      #3147890 - 06/05/09 08:46 PM

Not sure how big a scope your looking at but I enjoy The Illustrated Guide to Astronomical Wonders. Here is a link at Amazom: Amazom Link

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: JayinUT]
      #3151419 - 06/07/09 11:04 PM

Although Sue's book is called Small Scope Sampler other then a hand-full of targets there is nothing really specific to small scopes and it serves those with larger aperture equally well.

If you have worked through her book and simply want new objects pick up Stephen James O'Mearas' Caldwell or Hidden Treasures, most of his objects are in the S&T Pocket Atlas so by combining the two you'll have text describing locating and impressions of the object and charts in a portable atlas. Although O-Meara uses smaller scopes I would think most of us are doing well to see his details in any scope.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: HfxObserver]
      #3163769 - 06/15/09 11:14 AM

Phil Harrington's "Star Watch" is a wonderful book for learning how to star hop. The charts are much better than "Turn Left..."

good luck.

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Re: Book on Star hopping new [Re: Nick Lloyd]
      #3187413 - 06/28/09 05:22 PM

Ditto on Harrington's "Star Watch." The scale of the charts is extremely accurate for star hopping and the objects chosen are outstanding. He also gives "reviews" of the "wow" factors for binoculars and for small telescopes. Very highly recommended.

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