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Rick J
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SH2-235 and a possible planetary
      #3151570 - 06/08/09 01:11 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

After Arp 157 I'm taking a short break from Arp galaxies to process a couple other things I took last winter. Here are Sharpless 2-235 and PK 173.7+02.7. The first is an emission nebula while the latter is a planetary nebula, at least it is so classified. They are located in the constellation of Auriga, just north of M36 so you know I took them some time ago and am just getting around to processing them. There's some major confusion as to the identities of these objects. There's some major confusion as to the identities of these objects. Even the normally accurate SIMBAD seems to have some problems here. Best I can determine SH2-235 is the large brilliant object that dominates the center of my image. The planetary is the orange object below it. However both SIMBAD and NED seem to think the planetary is SH2-235 and give the odd name of [KC97c] G173.6+02.8 to the Sharpless object. Yet Sharpless' description of 2-235 definitely identifies the big object as being the right one. The planetary is also identified in some catalogs as an HII emission nebula rather than a planetary. SIMBAD shows the location of the planetary as a molecular cloud full of masers which are microwave lasers often found in regions of star birth. This argues for the HII classification though the odd orange color is rare in HII regions but not unheard of. Also there are a lot of Herbig Haro objects in the area. Again these are new stars not dying ones that a planetary signifies. Looking for a Ph.D. thesis? Straightening this mess out might be one.

SH2-235 is considered to be caused by the collision of two vast molecular clouds. The collision has triggered a great amount of star formation that is only seen in deep dust penetrating infra red light. It is about 1800 parsecs (5900 light years) away by some estimates I found. It is part of a much larger complex consisting of several far larger Sharpless objects. All too big for my system. The faint H alpha seen in the upper left corner is a very small part of SH2-232. Even fainter tendrils from SH2-231 can be seen coming in from the right. They, along with SH2-233 way off to the right of my image are all part of the same complex. SH-2-235 is caused to glow by the brilliant 09 star near it core.

There's an asteroid in the image. It appears to be two lines on either side of a star just of the NE (upper left) edge of SH-235 as if I'm trying to point out the star. That's because I took 40 minutes of luminosity data, then 60 minutes of color data followed by 40 more minutes of luminosity and 30 more minutes of color data. Since the color data made a mess of the star's color it was subtracted out during processing. This makes the gap in the trail, which by coincidence jumped the star. The asteroid is (51850) 2001 OJ92 at magnitude 18.5.

Attached image at 1.5" per pixel, linked image at 1" per pixel

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http://www.spacebanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2472&stc=1

14" LX200R @ f/10, L=8x10' binned 2x2 RGB=3x10' binned 3x3, STL=11000XM, Paramount ME

Edited to correct a typing error, I'd said SH2-234 rather than SH2-235 at one point in the text.

Rick

Edited by Rick J (06/10/09 01:44 AM)


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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: Rick J]
      #3151673 - 06/08/09 03:33 AM

Amazing image Rick --- When I first looked at it I thought I saw a big nebula and a reflection of it below --- almost like there was water below it. There's really an incredible amount of objects in that picture --- very unusual..

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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: BrianFitz]
      #3152502 - 06/08/09 03:26 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

A beautiful image and very interesting research into some catalog confusion. I'm very hazy about what actually happened with SIMBAD website last winter. Last fall they were posting they were going to close, but now they are still up, and maybe moved to Harvard CfA? Seems odd, but maybe somehow Sh2-135 seems to have been misplaced during moving? Might also relate to 1980s catalog designation GN05.37.5.02 that appears here as alternate designation for both the Sh2 and PK objects. ....whatever...

In Guide 8 it's clear you made the correct identifications.


BONUS!

You can "add" another object, and this time it is a galaxy! Well, that seems a little dubious, but there are other faint ones plotted within 3-4 degrees, so it is possible. It's from the Million Galaxies LEDA list and seems to appear on your image reasonably clearly, and seems confirmed by POSS (for existence, not for being a galaxy, natch). A screen grab of how this plots is attached from Guide8 detail to clarify object location.

PGC 2068332 m(B)=18.34 PA=140 ...the "galaxy" appears to be taken to include the streak and apparent star at the SE end

Nice catch. Sort of like going fishing and catching a rare but famous snail darter (obscure minnow) off your dock while enjoying a fabulous sunset?

Rick, love your images and stories and info ---

---Tom L (Mn)

Edited by TRL (06/09/09 02:54 PM)


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Rick J
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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: TRL]
      #3153108 - 06/08/09 09:30 PM

SIMBAD existed on the net as two versions. It was the older version that was shut down. Though the way they announced this on the newer website was confusing.

Rick


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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: Rick J]
      #3153372 - 06/09/09 12:42 AM

another great shot rick
thanks for the write up


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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: Rick J]
      #3153454 - 06/09/09 03:54 AM

I really apreciate the time and effort you put into your posts Rick, makes a change from the lighter 'pretty pictures' and emphasises what we sometimes become inured to, the awe inspiring objects and processes we can witness.

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Re: SH2-235 and a possible planetary new [Re: John Carruthers]
      #3154240 - 06/09/09 03:16 PM

Oops... Sorry...

When I saved the jpg of the chart with PGC 2068332 inadvertently "b/w" switch was set in error. I just noticed this now, and have uploaded a corrected version, the only change being including the color. This didn't show (here, anyway) the size and orientation of the suggested galaxy very well at all in b/w, but this is important in seeing the matching faint detail in Rick's image.

Upon a little thought, it seems odd to see a "galaxy" in the Heart of Darkness of Milky Way Giant Molecular Clouds like this area. If it is assumed the PK object is in the background of the big Sharpless nebula and the GMC associated, then it is seen through a "hole" in the nearby dense obscuration. Apparently, if there's no major obscuration beyond the PK object a distant galaxy would be visible. But, I'd also like to see a check of the redshift on this one just to be safe.

A beautiful image like Rick's draws the viewer in to linger on the image and look more closely at details. For such an image there truly is more in it than first meets the eye.
---Tom


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