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Glob Hoppin'
      #3184809 - 06/26/09 10:23 PM

I began the night with the intention of looking for the companion to Antares. Once I looked in the general direction I remembered that it has been quite some time since I had looked at M80 (NCG 6093). So why not give it a go? I had a good long look at M80.
That was a big mistake because globular clusters have always been my favorite objects to view. Back when I began observing with an Astroscan in 1976 globular clusters were the most plentiful deep sky objects after open clusters available in my light polluted skies. And those unresolved globular clusters were just so mysterious at the low magnification of 15.4x provided with the included 28mm (before the RKE series) eyepiece. Itsy bitsy gray puffs floating among the pinpoint stars. Delicious.
The last two objects we observed at the Cherry Springs Star Party were globular clusters. So now with the companion to Antares a long lost memory I pointed my telescope over to Sagittarius, specifically the spout area.
Suddenly the view was full of numerous green flashes, some looking like a unfocused star with the shadow of the diagonal mirror in the center, others more tightly focused. Looking away from the eyepiece I was treated to a swarming cloud of fireflies visible to at least one hundred feet in any direction along the ground and at least up to fifty feet above the ground. Pausing to enjoy the light show while perched on the ladder I saw several bright sporadic meteors arcing down behind the lightning beetle light display.
Next I briefly looked at M20 (NGC 6514) and M8 (NGC 6523 = nebulous portion and NGC 6530 = open cluster) as I made my way to those very same globular clusters that finished the last session. They are NGC 6544 and NGC 6553. One is easily resolved at 99x magnification and the other one needs a little more magnification in my 25" telescope. How about another globular? I went down the ladder and opened my Sky Atlas 2000.0 to locate another nearby globular cluster. Just move down and to the left a bit according to the chart. So I hopped up on the ladder and began a night of glob hoppin. The scan down to the next globular took me right through an open cluster NGC 6520 and Barnard 86 (a dark nebula also known as the ink spot). There is a very striking contrast between Barnard 86 and the background star field. The Night Sky Observers Guide book has a picture but the view that night was far better than the photograph. Barnard 86 looked like a black version of M17 on a white background. Time to stop drooling and move on. Besides our astro cats get upset if you are drooling and they are down below.
I found and centered NGC 6528 in the eyepiece for a few minutes. Every globular cluster has its own personality all the way down to the ones that appear as mere ghosts in the sky. So I am not going to expound on the way each and everyone appeared at various magnifications. Next were (without the NGC) 6522, 6569, 6624, 6563 (a faint planetary nebula), 6637 (M69), 6652, 6681 (M70), 6715 (M54) resolution doubtful, and 6809 (M55). I took a little detour to 6822 (Barnards galaxy) the toughest object by far for the night. Next the globular cluster 6723, and then dipping into Corona Australis I chanced upon some glowing nebulous patches. They were 6726, 6727, 6729, and IC (Index Catalog) 4812. IC 4812 is a bright glow surrounding a sixth magnitude star. All of these were superimposed on a dark background cataloged as Bernes 157. Next the last globular here that I observed was 6723. The positions of the last few objects do not seem to be correct on the chart. Definitely something out of whack here besides star drop. My horizon does not permit observations much further south so I began a new trail starting at NGC 6235, 6287, 6284, 6273 (M19), 6293, 6355, 6316, 6304, and finally 6266 (M62). Most of these globular hops only involved a few degrees one way or another. With a smaller telescope or in more light polluted skies some of these 23 globular clusters would be difficult but doable. I am always surprised at certain objects that Messier included in his catalog that are nowhere near as bright or as easily resolved as others that escaped his notice.
By now Jupiter had climbed a fair distance above the horizon and I could hear it calling ... view me, view me. The seeing that night was poor and Jupiter boiled in the eyepiece with fleeting detail. Two major somewhat irregular cloud bands were visible with tantalizing hints of a third thinner band. It has been three years since I have had a moderately stable atmosphere. I long for the good old days when 350x magnification was more the norm. Now 99x magnification seems to push the limits some nights. The gentle breeze has now stopped and Jupiter is sporting a halo from the increasing humidity. Finally one quick peek at a disappointing M31 and its cohorts in Andromeda before closing up for the night.
Looking up with unaided eyes I was pleasantly surprised at the splendor of the Milky Way arched overhead. It was so wide that even M31 seemed to be an extension. Criss crossed by numerous irregular dark and light streaks from just below Cassiopeia and overhead and then down to just below Sagittarius and Scorpius. I held my widespread hands, with my thumbs touching, at arms length perpendicular to my face. With both eyes open the Milky way appeared to extend from pinkie finger to pinkie finger. Later measurements revealed that my widespread hands span 16" from pinkie to pinkie at a distance from my eyes of 21.5". That calculates to a unbelievable, to me at least, 40° of sky. Even considering parallax effects from both eyes the extent of the Milky Way was over 30°.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3185015 - 06/27/09 01:32 AM Attachment (12 downloads)

Awesome report Ted...many thanks!

For those of us using smaller refractors, are some of those objects not "findable"?

Late last winter I really enjoyed viewing M's 36,37 and 38, along with the big open cluster. M44. I think I prefer the clusters over galaxies, as I can resolve enough to see the outer and inner parts of the clusters. Most galaxies tend to be little more than a smudge against the blackness of deep space, where the clusters really give us something to see!

As I write I'm waiting for darkness to fall. Currently there are a few stars visible, but my first target when I head back out (already viewed the Moon) is M3, then I'm going back to hunting down M5. Never found it, yet, but tonight will be the night! Also set the laptop up next to the scope, running Stellarium, skies are decent so far and once they settle (about 0100) I should be able to bag M5 along with (maybe?) M10 and M12 in Ophiuchus.

I'll be pleased as can be to find M5, anything else tonight will be icing on the cake.

[edit in note at 11:55pm - Found M5..sweet! I could resolve it much better than M3, and it resolved well up to 157x.

Put the scope up about 0030 as I was getting tired (worked hard all day doing yardwork), and decided to go back out with just the bino's. (Ted, the sky was incredible tonight, no?). What made it even better was that M10 and M12 had entered the small area to the S/SW I have to view, and as I put the bino's to my eyes there sat M12 and M10. ..

Thanks Ted...you are an inspiration to us new guys!



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Edited by DizzyGazer (06/27/09 04:26 AM)


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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3186168 - 06/27/09 09:26 PM

Ted If you like globs look into Ophiuchus. This area is loaded with globular clusters. This spring I figured I looked at 30 globs in this area alone. a digital box is the best way to find them. star hopping is ok but we don't get many clear nights here to waste our time reading star charts. I click on the object now with Sky tools software and I'm there in a minute.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: Ray4852]
      #3186241 - 06/27/09 10:12 PM

Ray and Mike, I know that there are more globular clusters up higher but I did not feel like bringing my ten foot ladder out especially since it was late and the humidity was on the rise. Reading the charts and scanning over from cluster to cluster is how I find objects that I normally would not look at. To me it is interesting to note how the star density varies all along the hop.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3187422 - 06/28/09 05:24 PM

Great report Ted. I happened to view a couple of those globs at the same time as you from an orange zone.

NGC 6520 was a real treat. The brightest inner portion was nearly a perfect circle with 20-30 stars resolved and there were a few bright stars outside the circle. Was this the impression you got? I noticed you didn't mention the glob NGC 6540 in your report; it shares the field with 6520 at low enough power as they're only about a degree apart, and it's a very interesting pair. 6540 was very faint but looked to me like it was pinched in the center with an eastern (larger) and western (smaller) portion. But I missed B86 so that will be something to look for during my next dark sky session. I tend to skip over the nebulae (bright and dark) that are just little squares in my charts.

NGC 6522 and 6528 also fit in the field together if you have an eyepiece that provides about a degree of FOV. I imagine that's nearly impossible with a 25" scope though. 6522 appeared a tiny bit brighter to me than 6528 but they were both unresolved fuzzballs in my scope.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: NerfMonkey]
      #3187596 - 06/28/09 07:12 PM

Hi Mike,

I believe that NGC 6540 is classified as a faint open cluster on my charts and also in The Night Sky Observers Guide. Your mention of this object has led me to search further on the internet. Several sources now classify it as a globular cluster. What charts are you using?
As far as observing nebulae go I do not usually go looking for them, but B86 was very obvious.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3187641 - 06/28/09 07:40 PM

I use the Sky & Telescope Pocket Atlas (published in 2006) and it shows NGC 6540 as a globular cluster. According to this page it was only recently reclassified as a glob. The SIMBAD database also lists it as a globular.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: NerfMonkey]
      #3187722 - 06/28/09 08:38 PM

I wonder if there are other reclassifications that I am not aware of. NGC 6540 will be on my list of targets if it ever stops raining. Of coarse by then I will either forget or it will be down below my horizon by then.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3188241 - 06/29/09 04:42 AM

Hi Ted,

Understood about the ladder...heck, I don't even get on ladders unless I absolutely have to..(got -0- balance..LOL).

Set the scope up tonight by 2000 hrs., but missed seeing the Moon in daylight as it dropped out of my "window". Had some dessert, and went back out about 2230 and found some pretty decent skies. It really didn't get "dark" til about midnight, but the observing was still pretty decent.

Started off going right back to M5, making sure I knew where to find it next time out. Once I find an object, it is again viewed the next session that way it gets memorized as to location. M5 was again very nice, and I was able to resolve a number of the outer stars with averted vision.

Moved on to M3 for a few minutes, and viewed it up to 141x. Still, very difficult to resolve any outer stars even with averted vision.

Had time to kill, so I came in and checked Stellarium to see what was in the area. I saw that Yed Prior was a double-star, but try as I might I couldn't pull the companion star out. Conditions didn't let me go beyond 141x, and I think it might take a bit more in this 102mm refractor to split it. Still, going to try it again another night.

Had to wait quite a while for M12 to enter the 25º window I have to view through, and it finally entered the picture about 0030, along with M10. Really enjoyed these 2 as it was a first time (in the scope) to see them. Both viewed nicely at 141x, and was able to resolve many outer stars of both.

After that I went huntin'.. Swung the scope up to the NE part of Ophiuchus, and found a very nice looking open cluster. Found out once I came in that it was NGC 6633.., so I logged it as well. (also was my first logged NGC object)

I could see there was much more in that area, but duty calls tomorrow AM, so, I called it a night.

This little refractor just continues to impress the hell out of me, and I am really looking forward to seeing these same objects with a bit more aperture in the future.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: Ray4852]
      #3188926 - 06/29/09 01:45 PM

As of June of 2002, the constellations of Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, and Scorpius contained 33, 25, and 19 globulars respectively, 51% of the total of 151 globular clusters. Aquila comes next with a total of 7 globulars, then Serpens with 5, Hercules with 4, and Ara with 4.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3189619 - 06/29/09 07:29 PM

Nice report Ted.

By companion to Antares, did you mean M4 or NGC6121? I found the later using my little 6" dob at a dark sky site last Saturday for the first time. Seeing and probably aperture prevented me from resolving any stars but it was fun to find and actually rather obvious once I got Antares out of the FOV.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: NerfMonkey]
      #3189649 - 06/29/09 07:46 PM

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I use the Sky & Telescope Pocket Atlas (published in 2006) and it shows NGC 6540 as a globular cluster. According to this page it was only recently reclassified as a glob. The SIMBAD database also lists it as a globular.




NGC 6540 is now considered a globular cluster . My copy of the Sky&Tel Pocket Atlas shows it as an open cluster. My Sky Atlas 2000 does not even show the cluster at all. Strange considering it is magnitude 9.3.
It was historically thought to be an open cluster. Djorgovski suspected it to be a globular (it now carries the honorary name Dgorg 3); and it has since been shown to have a blue horizontal branch and low metallicity.


I was looking at NGC 6540 this past weekend with my 11" scope. It was very faint from my NELM 5 back yard. A faint smudge with some periods of mottling now and then. The most striking thing to me about NGC 6540 is that it appears substantially elongated east/west. I thought my recent sketch had perhaps overemphasized this, but a look at the Digitized Sky Survey confirms its' shape. I can not think of any other globular that is so elongated. Can anyone else?

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: skypilgrim]
      #3189741 - 06/29/09 08:37 PM

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Nice report Ted.

By companion to Antares, did you mean M4 or NGC6121? I found the later using my little 6" dob at a dark sky site last Saturday for the first time. Seeing and probably aperture prevented me from resolving any stars but it was fun to find and actually rather obvious once I got Antares out of the FOV.

Sam



Double star is what I meant. Antares has a hot blue companion star, Antares B magnitude 5.5, of spectral type B2.5 at a separation of about 2.9 arcseconds. It was a greenish tint always present at the same spot in the bright scintillation of Antares. Not a clean separation due to low magnification (38x) in an eight inch reflector along with the unsteady seeing and subsequent blurring of Antares.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: davidpitre]
      #3190021 - 06/29/09 10:50 PM

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The most striking thing to me about NGC 6540 is that it appears substantially elongated east/west. I thought my recent sketch had perhaps overemphasized this, but a look at the Digitized Sky Survey confirms its' shape. I can not think of any other globular that is so elongated. Can anyone else?




Not me. I've seen all the Messier globs and none of them have as much elongation as 6540, and I don't remember seeing any non-Messier globs that are anything like it.

I'd like to see this one under a truly dark sky and see if more detail can be teased out of it.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: davidpitre]
      #3190306 - 06/30/09 02:29 AM

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I was looking at NGC 6540 this past weekend with my 11" scope. It was very faint from my NELM 5 back yard. A faint smudge with some periods of mottling now and then. The most striking thing to me about NGC 6540 is that it appears substantially elongated east/west. I thought my recent sketch had perhaps overemphasized this, but a look at the Digitized Sky Survey confirms its' shape. I can not think of any other globular that is so elongated. Can anyone else?




In my old 10 inch (25 cm) Newtonian, five stars strung east-to-west gave this globular an initial appearance of being quite elongated. Additional time at the eyepiece revealed a faint nebulosity (light from unresolved cluster members) sharing the same area as the string of stars. Overall, this globular appeared 1'.5 by 1'.0 in size in my 10 inch: NGC 6540.

Luginbuhl and Skiff have published what may be the best modern visual description of this object, "In 25 cm this cluster is just visible as a tiny, faint patch involved with a partially resolved 1' string of stars that bends S at its W end. With 30 cm the cluster seems quite elongated at low power due to this string. At 225x the string is resolved into seven or eight faint stars in an arc concave to the N, running through the center of the cluster and out the E and W ends. The cluster is a 30" spot centered on the arc and is without resolution."

NGC 6540's appearance begs an interesting question: are the stars in the E-W string associated with the cluster? Bica, et al write in their 1994 paper, "NGC 6540 is very peculiar structurally with a dense elongated nucleus and two clumps of bright stars which extend the cluster in the east-west direction."

This is a fun deep-sky challenge and a good target for moderate aperture under dark skies.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3191586 - 06/30/09 06:44 PM

"Double star is what I meant"

Duh, of course. And I even enjoy double stars!

Finding NGC6121 made me forget all about double stars I guess.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: star drop]
      #3194074 - 07/01/09 10:17 PM Attachment (6 downloads)

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The scan down to the next globular took me right through an open cluster NGC 6520 and Barnard 86 (a dark nebula also known as the ink spot). There is a very striking contrast between Barnard 86 and the background star field. The Night Sky Observers Guide book has a picture but the view that night was far better than the photograph. Barnard 86 looked like a black version of M17 on a white background. Time to stop drooling and move on.




There is a little-known globular cluster very close to NGC 6520 and B-86, and it is fairly easy to see once you know exactly where it is. Djorg 2 (AKA E456-SC38) can be found by drawing a line from the center of NGC 6520 through the center of B-86 and extending it about twice that distance. The glob is found right in the center of a trapezium of stars that look just like the Hercules keystone. See the picture (below), which also shows the location of Djorg 3 (AKA NGC 6540), another glob that was formerly classified as an open cluster.

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Re: Glob Hoppin' new [Re: palsing]
      #3197186 - 07/03/09 02:14 PM

Thank you Paul. I will look for DJORG 2 if the rain ever stops in time.

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