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Midnight Dan
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simply "nabbing" items on some checklist, sounds more like a sport than a science
An interesting thread. Just wanted to toss in my coupla sheckles.
I think the term "checklist" is a problem here. It brings up negatively connotations of just mindlessly checking things off - saw that, yep there's the next one, got it ... with a goal of how many can I "check off" in one night.
Having a plan is not the same as just checking things off a list and I don't think that connotation was inferred by bbmagic since he also uses the term "plan" as well as "checklist". I don't think anyone who uses a checklist for their plan is actually intent on "simply nabbing items".
I agree with those that have said everyone is different, approaches their observing sessions differently, and gets satisfaction from it in their own way. I personally am a planner. I like having a plan for many things in life and I get a lot of satisfaction from following through on it. Having a plan means I've put some thought into ahead of time and feel that I'm not missing out on something because I didn't do my research up front. But I also enjoy just exploring around some nights and seeing whatever pops up.
-Dan
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RussL
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Thank goodness this thread has turned happier. I will also add that if someone wants to only check things off a list, that's great, too, for them. For me, if there's a special event coming up, I, too, often would like to plan for it in order not to miss anything. On the other hand, I have stumbled upon events I didn't even know were gonna happen--now that was fun. I also remember my first view of Uranus, just a blue dot, that's all. Not much to see, but I stared at it for about twenty minutes, not expecting to see anything more, but to observe it "with my mind." That is, to think about what I was looking at and what it means, what it is, what it is made of, how far away it is, and many other things that I have learned about it. Had I never read up on it I wouldn't have known what to think about. But then again, if I knew nothing at all, I could still contemplate the beauty of it in it's surroundings, evaluate its color, or just give thanks for the show. Someone else may have had a different experience with it. It's all great stuff.
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RussL
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Thanks for your comments, Dizzy. Good to see ya, pal.
-------------------- --Dawg, the Russell
"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)
Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Orion 120ST ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces
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Enig
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Listen, I hate to bring this thread back up, but I don't think I'll be able to experience a release from it until I just come out and say:
I'm very sorry for being such an idiot in it. 
And to make it worse, I'll probably even wind up using a "checklist" before it's all over! My Wife often tells me that I always wind up contradicting myself. 
While I honestly do feel the way that I've expressed (however poorly), I sure do hope some of the folks will forgive me for the flaws in my delivery.
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panhard
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Reged: 01/20/08
Posts: 5200
Loc: Markham Ontario Canada
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You are forgiven. I went out the other night with a list. I only got to see about half of what was on the list & a few things that weren't on the list. Last night was the Moon and Jupiter & I didn't get either one. The darn clouds where in the way. I agree with your point of things sometimes being too regimented. I just like to get out under the stars and forget about everything else even time. When I go out my wife always say when will you be back. My stock answer is when I get back. She worries too much.
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AlanK
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When I go out my wife always say when will you be back. My stock answer is when I get back. She worries too much.
Same here and my arrival home is usually so quiet that the first time she notices I'm there is when waking at 8am the next morning
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aa5te
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Reged: 08/30/08
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Loc: Clinton, TN
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I'm not knocking either users of lists or not (I usually make a short mental list when I'm here at home before I go out using Stellarium and Starry Night), but, if you go from an orange site to a grey/black one, a list may be almost worthless if you haven't been there in a while - you're just overwhelmed and too excited with what you want to look at simply because of all the stuff you can see naked eye - your priorities change quickly!
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AlanK
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Nah, that just makes me want to get the deeper lists out
-------------------- Clear skies!
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12 inch f5.4 reflector
Just another frozen astronomer
Kumeu Observatory
Auckland NZ
7,276 deep sky objects incl 4,670 ngcs
Who dares - observes!
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