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Teal'c
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: cygnus72]
      #3191675 - 06/30/09 07:30 PM

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I have to admit, I never heard of LOMO Optics before. Apparently, Stellarvue sells them, but what other companies sell them?




Stellarvue, no longer sells them.

APM Germany/APM America, Teton and A&M

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SV80S 80/480(LOMO)
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AP140.... Waiting......Waiting....

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: bryan242]
      #3191717 - 06/30/09 08:03 PM

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Y'all think Tak'll come out with a new 3-inch-class refractor anytime soon?




They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.

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Urban Observatory
A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 178ED F/9 "APO"
Meade ETX-125AT
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #3191726 - 06/30/09 08:08 PM

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Y'all think Tak'll come out with a new 3-inch-class refractor anytime soon?




They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.




It might outperform your scopes, but not mine

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SV95T 95/650(LOMO)
SV80S 80/480(LOMO)
Matthias Wirth 80/600(LOMO)
Celestron 120 XLT
AP140.... Waiting......Waiting....

Etch-O-Sketch and an eraser. Although....the eraser dosn't work







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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: Teal'c]
      #3191734 - 06/30/09 08:10 PM

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It might outperform your scopes, but not mine




You win!



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A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 178ED F/9 "APO"
Meade ETX-125AT
C14
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #3191752 - 06/30/09 08:21 PM

Another vote for the Takahashi FS78, yet I've looked through Jason's Vixen FL80S many times and it's hard to fault it in any way. I'm not a fan of the Lomo's, but I'm not a fan of any short focal length scope I've tried. Though, I can understand how an imager might feel differently.

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #3191776 - 06/30/09 08:31 PM

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Y'all think Tak'll come out with a new 3-inch-class refractor anytime soon?




They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.




I really think of the FSQ85 as an imaging scope. It is serious overkill for a visual observer. But I have a dream that Takahashi has on their drawing board a light, 80-85mm FPL53 doublet, compact but not as fast as the Baby Q or the Sky 90, maybe f/7, as a visual observer's true successor to the FC-76/FS-78.

Uh, wow... only after setting that down on (electronic) paper do I realize of course such a scope is essentially already there, it's called the TV-85...

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: bryan242]
      #3191800 - 06/30/09 08:46 PM Attachment (16 downloads)

My new Carton lens-based 80mm f/15.

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: bryan242]
      #3191808 - 06/30/09 08:50 PM

The best I have owned was the William Optics Megrez 80 Triplet (APO)

I also have owned an ST80, WO Megrez 80 II SD (Semi-APO) and the WO Megrez 80 FD (Doublet APO)...

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: bryan242]
      #3191828 - 06/30/09 09:11 PM

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Y'all think Tak'll come out with a new 3-inch-class refractor anytime soon?





But I have a dream that Takahashi has on their drawing board a light, 80-85mm FPL53 doublet, compact but not as fast as the Baby Q or the Sky 90, maybe f/7, as a visual observer's true successor to the FC-76/FS-78.

Uh, wow... only after setting that down on (electronic) paper do I realize of course such a scope is essentially already there, it's called the TV-85...




uhmmm I disagree with you. IMHO the FS 78 is better than TV85. I compare this two and in contrast, resolution and image detail the little Tak is a winner . Yep I got one and itīs my precciooooouuuuuuuuuussss!

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Meade 10" Starfinder Dob
Meade ETX 90
Vixen GP w/SS 2.0 /Vixen Porta Mount
Meade 10x50 Binos
Televue Binoviewer.
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: JAFE]
      #3191842 - 06/30/09 09:20 PM

I'll throw in the Meade 5000 Triplet. Very nice.
I have a AT80ED and absolutely love the views, even though it's only a doublet. I heard that the AT80EDTA is also very nice.


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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: NorthCoast]
      #3191843 - 06/30/09 09:20 PM

I am partial to my Stellarvue SV80L - Lomo triplet at 80/600. I haven't checked out many others, but when I tested it against a TV-85, I kept the Stellarvue. Perhaps that was partially because of the Feathertouch focuser in the Stellarvue, but I did like the lighter feel/smaller OTA diameter of the TV-85 (because no baffles?). But my weather conditions are so bad often that I suspect I couldn't truly put good 3" telescopes to a good test.

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Jackie
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SV70ED for gragNrun
Orion 120ST
Benro C-357 tripod/Microstar mount
Quarter Hitch & Gitzo GT5531S
8SE mount/tripod for refractor use
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: cygnus72]
      #3191846 - 06/30/09 09:21 PM

I've not had a lot of 80mm scopes, just three and two were achromat/enhanced achromat class. The third though is the APM 80/480 (f/6) and quite superb. Although I haven't searched for color there is none in routine use at magnifications from 20x to 320x on Luna -- so the in-focus limb showed no obvious color other than lateral color from the EP in the off-axis. Stars very pinpoint and doubles are just a joy to observe. Feathertouch focuser is exceptional and very sturdy feel to all its components. The added plus that I really like having at the ready is that the tube splits so you can shorten it and then use binoviewers without the OCA/amplifier so you get to keep all your TFOV from your eyepiece. Also a nice touch is that it has both baffles and flocking inside...and the baffles aren't any flimsy thing but good solid thick guage metal that are easy to access if need be. So being able to go from 12x @ 5.46 deg TFOV using my 40mm Titan-II ED all the way up to over 300x on Luna using my Radians, Supermonos, or Plossls on my 4x Telecentric makes it a pretty much do anything scope. Plus with the 24 Pan giving 3.2 deg TFOV I've not yet had a need to get a finder scope for it as that has been wide enough to find most anything without effort -- very much point and shoot

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XT10i Dob---TSA-102 S-APO---APM80/480 S-APO--- P.S.T.
TMB Supermonos---Meade UWAs---TV Panoptic---AT Titan II ED
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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: Jason B]
      #3191913 - 06/30/09 10:10 PM

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I'll place my vote for the 80mm F8 Vixen Fluorite (FL80S). I have compared it to every 80mm on the market save a few of the most recent Chinese offerings and have never thought I should "upgrade". Going strong since 1987.....




Gotta admit that I would like one of these, even though I've never looked through one...


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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: PhilG]
      #3191937 - 06/30/09 10:24 PM

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I'll place my vote for the 80mm F8 Vixen Fluorite (FL80S). I have compared it to every 80mm on the market save a few of the most recent Chinese offerings and have never thought I should "upgrade". Going strong since 1987.....




Gotta admit that I would like one of these, even though I've never looked through one...




It's too bad that they couldn't keep making them as well as Takahashi and their fluorite series as well.

When you look at all the answers in this thread, there are sure a lot of high end choices for us even if some are only on the used market nowadays....

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: jtpowers1972]
      #3191983 - 06/30/09 10:53 PM

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IMO, without question the LOMO 80/600.





Ditto!!


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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: MrGrytt]
      #3192026 - 06/30/09 11:18 PM Attachment (13 downloads)

1960s Tasco 10TE-5. 76mm/1200mm.

An amazing refractor with the lens made by craftsmen at Astro Optics - hand figured. Don't need no ED glass when you got focal length on your side...

The Purple Planet Eater:

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: Preston Smith]
      #3192186 - 07/01/09 01:22 AM

I had a Celestron ST 80. It made a nice, low power, finder. Had an Orion ED80. It was nice but got soft at mags above 150x. I currently own an SV80S with the Lomo objective. It's the last 80mm scope I'll ever need.

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #3192255 - 07/01/09 02:34 AM

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They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.




Why ?


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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: cygnus72]
      #3192341 - 07/01/09 05:12 AM

Let's put a price restriction in place to make this question more challenging and/or relevant for our pocketbooks. What is the best 80mm scope for less than $500? (Can include OTA-only scopes as well!)

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Re: Best 80mm scope. new [Re: Preston Smith]
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Don't need no ED glass when you got focal length on your side...





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