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tuckleyc
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Reged: 07/01/09
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Loc: Lewes, East Sussex, UK
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Hi everyone,
I'm thinking of trying to build a roll off roof observatory where I'm living next year.
Simple enough, but the thing is it's on the roof of a 13 story building. There's a solid wall i'll be able to build it against but I think it'll need quite a lot of reinforcement to stop it and my equipment blowing away in high winds.
Do you think it'll even be possible? Bearing in mind I wont be able to have any sizable foundations. I'm thinking reinforcing it inside the walls with a low wall of breeze blocks or something?
Thanks,
Chris
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1965healey
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Hey Chris welcome to the Observatory Forum where almost anything is possible! We need some pictures of your roof top site, some info on your telescope and the size of the observatory you want as well as the size of the lift in the building. Just how solid is that solid wall? How old is building and whats the roof made of? Do you live on the 13th story? If not who's flat is under where you want to build? Will they mind hearing you mucking about while you build, while you observe or roll the roof back and forth?
-------------------- 1965Healey (Karen)
Woodlawn Lake Observatory
Celestron CPC 800/FT MIcro/APT Wedge
SV NHNG 80mm #0261/CG5-GT
Celestron Omni 150 XLT
Losmandy rails/rings
Starizona CWeight system
Celestron Neximage
Sony a100 DSLR/ZigView S2
Meade DS60's w/Autostar (2)
Meade LPI/Meade DSI-C/DSI ProII
750cc Honda Shadow Spirit (Thanks Dad!)
1965 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
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tuckleyc
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Loc: Lewes, East Sussex, UK
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Hi,
Yes well I'm moving in in September because I go to uni up there in London, and yes, I'll be living right next to it, its a roof garden you see, and it's ok about the neighbours below, we own that flat too so we'll just tell the tenants it could be a bit noisy while I build it... Hopefully. But they're always out in the day anyway.
Well I've got a Celestron C-8 SCT on a CG-5 mount and I'll really just be wanting to build it as cheaply as possible. The roof's gravel with concrete underneath it, but we probably won't be able to do much with that concrete apart from drill into it in a couple of places. The wall is properly solid, it's brick a couple of layers thick I think. It'll take me a while to get some photos of the roof and things, I'm not going up there for a while. The lift isn't that big either, I don't know exact dimensions.
How much do you reckon all this would cost anyway? Is it really worth it if I live just next to the roof garden? It's just that I'm getting a bit tired of spending half my nights setting up and taking everything down.
What do you reckon?
Thanks,
Chris
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1965healey
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Chris, a roof top garden sounds like a wonderful place to observe from! You could probably start your project small and with minimal expense by mounting a metal pier to the roof. A length of 6" iron pipe with the proper flanges welded top and bottom to bolt it to the roof and and to hold the CG5 without the tripod shouldn't be too dear in cost, perhaps 100 pounds. Properly painted with rust proof enamel and filled with some sand it should be steady enough for visual observing. Once aligned you could just slip the C8 out of the dovetail mount and cover the pier/CG5 with a tarp and take just the telescope in for the night. In fair weather even the telescope would be alright outside under a cover occassionaly.
A proper roll off roof observatory costs depend on its size and the cost of timbers/hardware and the labour to construct it if you're going to let that job out to someone. Many people build them as a personal project and do the labour themselves saving on that expense. While not difficult to do if you have the time and tools to construct it, being at university may mean that your time is limited and your budget to purchase tools may be limited as well. At a minimum you'd need a proper circular saw, a sturdy drill, spanners/sockets, a tape measure, a hammer and all the other bits of kit for building a shed. You can save on the cost of a saw and the mess one makes by having the shop where you buy your timber cut everything for you but your measurements need to be dead on and what they charge to cut it may be more than the cost of the circular saw in the end. You can purchase a prefab metal or wood shed and just modify the roof so that it moves or tilts, lots of people do this and are very pleased with the result, it may actually be the least expensive and quickest way to get a structure built. So long as the unassembled bits will fit in the lift it may be the way to go.
Take a look through the "post a picture of your observatory" thread and you'll see lots of observatories from the magificent to the humble. If you see one that you like then PM the builder/owner and strike up a conversation. We all love to talk about our observatories if givena chance.
Again welcome and good luck!
-------------------- 1965Healey (Karen)
Woodlawn Lake Observatory
Celestron CPC 800/FT MIcro/APT Wedge
SV NHNG 80mm #0261/CG5-GT
Celestron Omni 150 XLT
Losmandy rails/rings
Starizona CWeight system
Celestron Neximage
Sony a100 DSLR/ZigView S2
Meade DS60's w/Autostar (2)
Meade LPI/Meade DSI-C/DSI ProII
750cc Honda Shadow Spirit (Thanks Dad!)
1965 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
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tuckleyc
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Yes, I think I'll start off with just a pier at first and see if I want to expand it with a structure later. Thanks very much for the advice, it's been extremely helpful.
Chris
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