Karl_Bonner_1982
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Let me guess Doug...60x900 and 80x1000, although the difference in length looks like a little more than 10 percent.
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Mr. Mike
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Loc: Churchville, NY
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Well, my Stellarvue 80mm ED Next gen certainly fits the bill for me. Minimal FC if any at all. The mag can be cranked up pretty good before anything bad happens. Great build quality. Fair pricing. Service is as good as anybodys, no question.
Other than a mega high-end triplet, I dont think Id get more enjoyment out of anything else. Actually, I wont upgrade until I can get a 4" Triplet. 
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Stellarvue NG 80mm ED
Meade 7x50 Binos
Pentax XW 5mm
Meade 5K UWA 8.8mm
Vixen LVW 13mm
Vixen LVW 22mm
TV Panoptic 35mm
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matman-1
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Loc: Tokyo, Japan
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Havent used a Takahashi, but sure love my Vixen ED81S, far better contrast than my Skywatcher 102 f/5. Glorious view of orion nebula with my pentax xw 7 mm.
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Chris G
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Well I've really been happy with my SV85S but I've had the pleasure of looking through both the LOMO 80's and they are incredible.
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Starlighter
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My TV-85. Superb optics. No scope is better built. Hardly any CA to speak of. Convenient, compact, relatively lightweight and a joy to use. What more could one ask for?
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Celestron C4-R 102mm achromat
Celeston Nexstar 6SE SCT
Meade 80mm APO Triplet
Televue NP-101
Televue TV-85
Vixen A70Lf
Vixen A80Mf
William Optics 66mm Zenithstar Patriot
Celestron CG4 EQ mount
Orion Skyview Pro AZ mount
Vixen Portamount
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Starlighter
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Loc: Sunny California
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And I give the Meade 80mm triplet high marks. No CA. Sharp optics. Good quality single-speed Crayford focuser. Compact design. Superb baffling. Built like a tank.
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Celestron C4-R 102mm achromat
Celeston Nexstar 6SE SCT
Meade 80mm APO Triplet
Televue NP-101
Televue TV-85
Vixen A70Lf
Vixen A80Mf
William Optics 66mm Zenithstar Patriot
Celestron CG4 EQ mount
Orion Skyview Pro AZ mount
Vixen Portamount
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Doug76
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Loc: SE Louisiana, future Texan
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Let me guess Doug...60x900 and 80x1000, although the difference in length looks like a little more than 10 percent.
Close. 60x1000 and 80x1200.
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jrcrilly
Refractor wienie no more
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Loc: NE Ohio
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They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.
Why ?
I figure it should perform as well as the FSQ-106; correction at least as good as the LOMO but an even wider field - and flatter. It's probably not very significant for visual use, but the request was for the best.
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A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 178ED F/9 "APO"
Meade ETX-125AT
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Teeter 20" F/3.8 truss Newt w/ServoCat
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cygnus72
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Loc: State College, PA
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And I give the Meade 80mm triplet high marks. No CA. Sharp optics. Good quality single-speed Crayford focuser. Compact design. Superb baffling. Built like a tank.
Starlighter, I had the chance to take a look through a Meade 5000 APO back in March. Just one look and I was hooked.
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Starlighter
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Loc: Sunny California
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Yes, it's a great little scope. I put it side by side with my new NP-101 and noticed as far as eliminating CA, it matched pretty closely the far more expensive Televue. Although it wasn't as bright, images were tack sharp. Only problem is it doesn't have as flat a field as the 101. I notice stars start to go out of focus nearing the field stop on my 13mm Ethos. Not bad, but the NP is just so perfect in that regard that it's hard to beat it.
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Celestron C4-R 102mm achromat
Celeston Nexstar 6SE SCT
Meade 80mm APO Triplet
Televue NP-101
Televue TV-85
Vixen A70Lf
Vixen A80Mf
William Optics 66mm Zenithstar Patriot
Celestron CG4 EQ mount
Orion Skyview Pro AZ mount
Vixen Portamount
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Mike Cook
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Loc: Moncton NB (Cloud Central)
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I have to agree about the Meade 80mm triplet as well. It is a wonderful refractor for the money. I love mine.
~Mike
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Meade series 5000 80mm triplet on AT Voyager alt-az
Celestron 15x70's
WO Binoviewers
Hyperion eyepieces
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Clive Gibbons
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They did (FSQ85), and I'd expect it to outperform everything mentioned so far in this thread - but at $3000 it's pricey.
Why ?
I figure it should perform as well as the FSQ-106; correction at least as good as the LOMO but an even wider field - and flatter. It's probably not very significant for visual use, but the request was for the best.
FWIW, analytical test of one FSQ-85, by W. Rohr.
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prestonrich
professor emeritus
Reged: 12/01/07
Posts: 541
Loc: Washington DC Mayland suburbs
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A vote for the Celestron Onyx 80 @ $350.
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Montgomery Village, MD
Binos: Leica Trin 7x35 | Miya Saturn III | Canon 18x50is
Mounts: Man/Bog 475/501HD | QS Samson/Half Hitch | ASGT
Scopes: Questar 3.5 Duplex | C8 | Onyx 80 | LB 16" w/SkyCom & JMI TNT Track
EPs: Denk II PxS/FS | Hyperions, Brandons, filters, BIPH
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Jared
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Loc: Piedmont, California, U.S.
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A vote for the Celestron Onyx 80 @ $350.
Only catch is that it's been discontinued. Of course, some dealers may have them in stock. If so, certainly a bargain.
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- Stellarvue SV80S
- Astro-Physics Mach1 GTO
- Takahashi Teegul SP Mount
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Edwin Quiroga
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uhmmm I disagree with you. IMHO the FS 78 is better than TV85. I compare this two and in contrast, resolution and image detail the little Tak is a winner  . Yep I got one and it´s my precciooooouuuuuuuuuussss! 
An astronomer fellow in a club that I have visited several times has a Tak TSA 102 and a FS78. We observed together in several nights and I had the chance of compare my TV85 against this two very great Tak scopes.
With respect to the FS 78, while an awesome scope, I can`t say that it outperforms the TV85. The TV85 was a little brighter, obviously in reason of its bigger aperture, and the Tak showed a bit less CA (although the TV85 showed too little so that it matters), I suposse for its minor aperture and longer focal length. Both of them yields beautiful, contrasting and sharp images in each target. But the FS78 seemed to me big and cumbersome for its aperture.
And look in this review how good -according the reviewer- is the TV85 when it compares to the legendary Astro-Physics Stowaway 92mm.
It is NOT possible that you or anybody can be wrong with the Televue 85.
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TeleVue 85 w/FeatherTouch
Televue Panoptic 35
Pentax XW (3.5, 5, 7, 10, 14, 20)
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Rich N
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That TV-85 vs. Stowaway comparison is a little suspect IHMO.
Rich
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Mike Holland
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How so? Thanks.
Mike
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BillP
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I don't know if suspect, but certainly not an even-handed compare. First off the AP was not masked to 85mm, so that throws off the compare right away. In my own tests between various scopes when I do a compare between ones with slightly different apertures, the results always fall the way it did for this compare, the larger aperture scope appears better on stars, globs, etc., and the slightly smaller one always seems to do a tad better on planets (which I surmise is because the little less brightness does accentuate surface feartures most of the times when doing direct compares and does make the background space look more stark). Other confounding variable was the use of two different brand diagonals between the scopes. So would have been a more "level" compare if the same eyepiece/diagonal combo was used for both, and if the apertures were masked so equivalent. So IMO this review needs to be read with these things in mind. Still a very interesting compare.
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Supermono---Radian---Panoptic---Titan II
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Starlighter
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Loc: Sunny California
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Edwin, you need to get a Starbeam!
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Celestron C4-R 102mm achromat
Celeston Nexstar 6SE SCT
Meade 80mm APO Triplet
Televue NP-101
Televue TV-85
Vixen A70Lf
Vixen A80Mf
William Optics 66mm Zenithstar Patriot
Celestron CG4 EQ mount
Orion Skyview Pro AZ mount
Vixen Portamount
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Mike Holland
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 12/22/06
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Nah! He needs a lazer pointer. I got one for my scope, and can't imagine being without it now.
Mike
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