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Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region
      #3226925 - 07/19/09 03:29 PM

This just in all, Coutesy and Credit of Anthony Wesley, Murrumbateman, Australia at 1554UT 19 July today

http://www.acquerra.com.au/astro/ObsReport/jupiter-impact.html

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Keith g]
      #3226951 - 07/19/09 03:45 PM

If this is really a scar left from an impact from space, it means that Jupiter is really and truly the Solar System's vacuum cleaner. If the weather would only clear down here, I'll be willing to stay up late to see if this scar appears tonight in the telescope. I remember the huge bruises the fragments of Comet ShoemakerLevy-9 left behind when they hit Jupiter back in 1994. They were impossible to miss in even the smallest of telescopes.

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: Keith g]
      #3227029 - 07/19/09 04:33 PM

Congratulations Anthony!

What this means is that your careful analysis and watchful eye have discovered something that no one predicted or was not publicized.

No matter what the explanation is you have done some good science there.


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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Achernar]
      #3227030 - 07/19/09 04:33 PM

Curses The weather is now guaranteed to be cloudy until the event is no longer observable

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: brianb11213]
      #3227077 - 07/19/09 05:05 PM

I was observing Jupiter this morning at 2:30 am PDST (7-19-09) and noticed a dark marking as well. But it was below 2 white oval storms in the southern polar region not above them as it is in the image. I don't know if this related to what you imaged but I thought I would mentioned this. Dean

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Dean Norris]
      #3227147 - 07/19/09 06:02 PM

Thanks Dean, all this is useful right now as the story unfolds, we have until aproximately 3.5hours now untill transit time here in Ireland and europe, so we will see if it is still there...

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Keith g]
      #3227293 - 07/19/09 07:45 PM

I wonder if CBAT and ALPO have been alerted?

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Matthew Ota]
      #3227436 - 07/19/09 09:44 PM

I'm no Jupiter expert, but doesn't the planet churn up dark holes in its atmosphere fairly regularly?

Spaceweather.com is calling for amateur astronomers around the world to "train their telescopes on Jupiter tonight to monitor the progress of this possible impact event."


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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: TwinCitySteve]
      #3227532 - 07/19/09 10:45 PM

Quote:

I'm no Jupiter expert, but doesn't the planet churn up dark holes in its atmosphere fairly regularly?





Dark spots (called "condensations") are seen fairly often, but black spots like this are unusual.

More info here in the Solar System Imaging forum.

BTW, CM III will be at ~300° (the location of the black spot on Bird's image) at 0740 UT (3:40 AM EDT) for US east coast observers on Tuesday, July 21st. This is about the time that Jupiter transits the meridian. Clear skies!

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Special Ed]
      #3227831 - 07/20/09 04:42 AM

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm in Ireland too. I'll keep an eye on it if the weather stays clear(which it hasn't).


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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Hauk]
      #3227842 - 07/20/09 05:04 AM

I was observing Jupiter on the 19th and noticed that dark spot, thought it was a shadow from one of the moons, even watched it for a while, did not even think to check transits, should have as I had a great night for imaging here and I wasn't imaging. Well done Anthony and good on you for being switched on

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: Hauk]
      #3227920 - 07/20/09 07:24 AM

It's visible right now (11.22 UT)in my 20". I'm in New Zealand.

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: dave brock]
      #3227936 - 07/20/09 07:55 AM

Hello:

I did not see the spot with my 144mm refractor in mediocre seeing. I was just using the NASA IRTF (for a previously scheduled observation), and it's a very prominent spot in the IR, not like anything I've ever seen on Jupiter. This page http://jupiter.samba.org/jupiter-impact.html mentions confirmation that it is an impact.

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar regio new [Re: mconnelley]
      #3228080 - 07/20/09 10:09 AM

Just arrived back from a family weekend when I read about activity on Jupiter. Updated my Observing blog with times the feature will be visible.

http://lackawannaastronomicalsociety.org/?page_id=203

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: Keith g]
      #3228467 - 07/20/09 01:31 PM

Wow. I didn't know an impact happened on Jupiter. I remember Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 crashed into Jupiter in 1994. I wonder if also Saturn is subjected to comet crashes like Jupiter.

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: Ptarmigan]
      #3228502 - 07/20/09 01:58 PM

Quote:

I wonder if also Saturn is subjected to comet crashes like Jupiter.



Of course it is ... but the frequency of the events will be much lower because Saturn's gravity isn't as strong. The Earth gets hit, too, just not very often.

The dynamic calculations around the time of SL9 suggested a 2 Km diameter object should impact Jupiter about once per century.


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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: Keith g]
      #3228526 - 07/20/09 02:09 PM

This has been the hot topic of discussion on the Minor Planet Mailing List (MPML). Franck Marchis, a planetary astronomer with the SETI Institute, has told the group that one of the Keck telescopes has been used to image the new feature in the near-infrared. This observation detected high emissions in the CH4 band, which is apparently a signature for an impact explosion in the upper atmosphere.

Interesting stuff,

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: BillFerris]
      #3228723 - 07/20/09 03:47 PM

Interesting coincidence that this "mystery object" hit Jupiter right around the same time in July, as Comet SL-9 did back in 1994.
Just 15 years late.

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: Clive Gibbons]
      #3228825 - 07/20/09 05:00 PM

Anyone know of a site to use that has the transit times for this "dark spot"?

Vry much appreciated!

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Re: Dark impact mark in Jupiters south polar region new [Re: geminijk]
      #3228925 - 07/20/09 06:10 PM

Quote:

Anyone know of a site to use that has the transit times for this "dark spot"?

Vry much appreciated!





Yes, this thread. Just scroll up to John Sabia's post and click on the link.

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