· Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article    Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums Cloudy Nights - Official Forums of the 2009 International Year of Astronomy Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu.... uh, User   You are not logged in. [Login] Forum Archives · Entrance · Main Index · Search · New user · Who's Online FAQ · Calendar Observing >> Deep Sky Observing Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Pages: 1 BillP Post Laureate Reged: 11/26/06 Posts: 3955 Loc: Vienna, VA Near the Perseus Double....       #3230818 - 07/21/09 04:56 PM Attachment (25 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I was up late (or early depending on your view) last week and after viewing Jupiter noticed Cassiopiea was up. So I turned my 80mm toward the Double Cluster, enjoyed that gem for a while, then scanned left. I usually am using narrower fields so that evening with the f/6 80mm I was getting around 3 deg TFOV, or about 2 degrees more than I am used to typically. Anway, when looking at the Perseus Double in a wider field, there is an arc of very bright stars shooting off of the clusters (it arcs to west). If you follow that arc you come across a really fine and fairly tight large grouping of fainter stars (see pic). They frame nicely in a 2.5-3.0 deg TFOV. They look very much like a large cluster since they are surrounded by some dark space. I am supposing this is just a randon collection of stars and not an actual cluster or association of any kind?? I've not been able to find them on any chart as a named item. Funny how after decades of observing the double cluster, now that I have some refractors to supplement my Dob I'm coming across some new stuff in wide field mode -------------------- Bill Paolini XT10i Dob---TSA-102 S-APO---APM80/480 S-APO--- P.S.T. TMB Supermonos---Meade UWAs---TV Panoptic---AT Titan II ED To your own eyes be true... Post Extras:       rocco13 Got Milk? Reged: 07/29/06 Posts: 2660 Loc: Phoenix, Arizona Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: BillP]       #3230835 - 07/21/09 05:05 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   That's funny, because I have the opposite experience. At home in the suburbs, the DC is not a naked-eye object, so I roughly point the scope in that general location. 9 times out of 10 I'll hit this large open 'cluster' first, and then have to remember which direction from there the DC is, depending on it's location in the sky. I've never noticed the line of stars, though. -------------------- Rocco Zhumell Z12 Super C8 (1984 vintage) Celestron 102 f/5 and a cheap pair of binoculars Post Extras:       Bill Weir Pooh-Bah Reged: 06/01/04 Posts: 1299 Loc: Metchosin (Victoria), Canada Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: rocco13]       #3230890 - 07/21/09 05:25 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   From what I see you are noticing Stock 2. http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky/images/cas/st2.jpg Bill -------------------- 6'' Orion SkyQuest 12.5'' f/5 Custom Truss Dob William Optics 80mm ZenithStar ED II f/5 25" newtonian on a giant GEM, any time I want Observing sessions grand total for 2008, 121. So far in 2009, 92 Post Extras:       PJ Anway Pooh-Bah Reged: 06/04/03 Posts: 1142 Loc: Michigan's U.P. Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: BillP]       #3230933 - 07/21/09 05:46 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Definitely the Stock 2 cluster, also know as OCL 348 or the "Muscle Man" cluster. -------------------- PJ _________________ Lookum Observatory Post Extras:       scopethis professor emeritus Reged: 05/30/08 Posts: 638 Loc: Kingman, Ks Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: Bill Weir]       #3230940 - 07/21/09 05:49 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Maybe Stock 2 and that Kimble's (?) Cascade grouping of stars? Post Extras:       Patricko Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/30/07 Posts: 1534 Loc: SE New Mexico USA Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: scopethis]       #3231197 - 07/21/09 08:10 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   That is Stock 2. -------------------- Clear skies, Patrick INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION 60MM TELESCOPE CLUB! "You can always have better, but will you ever be happy with what you have?" - Me, myself, and I Post Extras:       BillP Post Laureate Reged: 11/26/06 Posts: 3955 Loc: Vienna, VA Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: Patricko]       #3231199 - 07/21/09 08:13 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Outstanding guys!!! Thanks btw, look at this link I just found looking up Stock 2 - link -------------------- Bill Paolini XT10i Dob---TSA-102 S-APO---APM80/480 S-APO--- P.S.T. TMB Supermonos---Meade UWAs---TV Panoptic---AT Titan II ED To your own eyes be true... Post Extras:       Patricko Carpal Tunnel Reged: 01/30/07 Posts: 1534 Loc: SE New Mexico USA Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: BillP]       #3231210 - 07/21/09 08:18 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Yep, Messier45.com is one of my favorite places to go for finding stuff. -------------------- Clear skies, Patrick INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION 60MM TELESCOPE CLUB! "You can always have better, but will you ever be happy with what you have?" - Me, myself, and I Post Extras:       Dain Carpal Tunnel Reged: 03/24/05 Posts: 1596 Loc: N.Y. Adirondack Mnts. NGC 4565... Re: Near the Perseus Double.... [Re: Patricko]       #3231694 - 07/22/09 03:03 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thats definitely Stock 2! -------------------- Best, Dain Adirondack Mountains (my true dark sky site) @ Cedar River Flow Local Site Clear Skies? Post Extras:       Pages: 1 Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 0 registered and 1 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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