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RAKing
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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: palsing]
      #3235736 - 07/24/09 09:15 AM

Paul,

Nice page. I keep all my notes and sketches in binders too, but nothing like this. You are way ahead of me!

Ron

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PeterSurma
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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: palsing]
      #3235756 - 07/24/09 09:30 AM

Hi Paul,

your site looks like a very valuable collection. Great link, I surely gonna browse through it ... Thanks a lot !

I also created similar notes for a while, but now completely switched to my web-based tool
http://eyes4skies.de/Internet/Astro/CrossRef/Crossref.htm
plus Guide 8.0 to create maps on the fly on my notebook. Actually I start Guide 8.0 (already pre-positioned on the concrete object) from my crossref webpage directly by clicking the NGC-links. Works excellent for me, and I also link my obsreports to it: although sorry, in english I can only offer:http://eyes4skies.de/Internet/Astro/BeobachtungsReports/BeobachtungsReports_files/BeobReport_2008_05_08_KABR_engl.htm
(tiny-sized crossref-links go back to the crossref page cited above)

Peter

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Peter

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Edited by PeterSurma (07/24/09 11:07 AM)


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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: PeterSurma]
      #3236704 - 07/24/09 08:11 PM

At any given time, i have a list of at least 1/2 dozen targets waiting to be sketched, and also have a seasonal 'standby' list containing targets i'd like to re-investigate if a night has better than average seeing or transparency. Then there's Jupiter's activities to watch for (GRS transits, moon shadow transits, new impact marks ), and plenty of satellite fly-bys to watch for.

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Starman1
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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: Philip Levine]
      #3240142 - 07/26/09 08:00 PM

Planning?
Simple.
1) use a planisphere to see what constellations are on/near the meridian (imaginary N-S line) at the hour of the night that astronomical twilight ends on the date of your observing session.
2) Write down the constellations from north to south along the meridian at that hour.
3) repeat the above for one hour later and continue until astronomical morning twilight begins (who knows how late you'll stay up?).
4) Now, use an observing list like the one on the Saguaro Astronomy Club's website(highly recommended), and sort the list by contellation.
5) looking at the magnitudes of each object, choose 2-5 bright objects in each constellation going from north to south.
6) repeat for the skies one hour later.
7) repeat until you have a fairly long list of objects to observe.
8) Print the list for the field.

Will you observe them all? Probably not. If you do, you will have had an incredibly productive observing session. But even if you only see 5-8 objects per hour, you will have seen a lot by the time dawn comes.

Save the list of objects for the next new moon period, crossing off the objects recorded. Repeat the above steps to add to the list to increase the number of choices. Some constellations will no longer be up during the next month's new moon and some new ones will appear.

Why stick to the meridian? Because every scope sees every deep-sky object best when it is on the meridian and in its highest position relative to the horizon. This will give you a leg up when looking for details in each object. Also, your scope will essentially be going back and forth along the meridian, making obstructions like trees along the horizon less consequential.

What happens if, after a few years, your list of new objects begins to have only the fainter objects on it? (I'm in that boat, now, nearly 11,000 objects later). Well, then spend some of each observing night looking at eye candy. After becoming experienced at looking at the faint "breath on the eyepiece" objects, the brighter stuff will appear spectacular. You'll want to go back and redo your notes from earlier (what was I, blind?) because you'll see more, and you'll be branching out into some exotic lists of objects to observe.

And, every now and then, take a night to relax and peruse your star atlas or observing book to get some ideas for next month.

All this presumes you travel to see dark skies. If you have dark skies in your backyard, you can run through your list any clear night. Oh, and I hate you.....

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izar187
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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: Dain]
      #3240191 - 07/26/09 08:33 PM

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4.)All Clear?
5.)Time to hit the road.

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Exactly!
Just check to make sure Uranometria is still tucked behind the front seat.

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30 years observing.


You just read this on the internet, so.....



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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: izar187]
      #3240294 - 07/26/09 09:34 PM

I just write up a hit list. If I'm doing galaxy clusters, I print out a DSS image and use it to get my bearings at the eyepiece.

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: HellsKitchen]
      #3240708 - 07/27/09 06:12 AM

I'm trying AstroPlanner. I've put together my list, now the weather needs to cooperate

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: markan]
      #3241184 - 07/27/09 12:47 PM

First...I'm always reminded how the CSC looks on my sig line. I'll take it from there.

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: palsing]
      #3245005 - 07/29/09 02:45 PM

I use a number of references, printed and Internet. Good examples are Walter Scott Houston's "Deep Sky Wonders", Sue French's Small Scope Tours, articles from Sky & Tel, etc.

Using the references along with a monthly sky chart to determine visibility of constellations, I'll plan a session so that I have a mixture of 2 or 3 new/challenge objects along with a sightseeing tour of more familiar objects.

I then find the objects on my Pocket Sky Atlas or Sky Atlas 2000 so that I have an idea of where they are. I make a list showing the designation and the atlas page and take the list with me when I observe.

Sometimes the sessions go as planned, sometimes not. Regardless, I generally have a great time under the night sky.

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: ensign]
      #3248142 - 07/31/09 03:31 AM

There is another resource right here on cloudy nights that can be used for a target guide. Check out Tom Trusock's "Small Wonders." I find the seasonal and by constellation format to be fun if you are not on the quest to complete lists.

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: alanon]
      #3253143 - 08/02/09 09:50 PM

I usually try the method many others here have talked about. If I don't have something specific that I want to observe, I find a constellation near the Zenith or well placed in the sky.

I open my Sky Atlas 2000 to that constellation and usally start with something bright. Say the Big Dipper is well pleaced for viewing, I might start with M101, then using my SA2000, I try to find as many of the little galaxies near it that I can.

I find this very challenging and it gives me something new to look at, instead of the same old Messiers night after night. Some of these NGC galaxies are very dim, but some are pretty nice. If I need a little more detail, I open my Uranometria altas - Bruce

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Re: how do you plan your observing sessions? new [Re: bper]
      #3253876 - 08/04/09 05:03 PM

Most often I use Deepskylog (www.deepskylog.be) for making observation lists. It is a very versatile web site. Not only let it generate you lists but also you can log your observations. And watch observations made by others.
I really deeply respect the Belgian developers of this site.
In the field I use the Pocket Sky Atlas and photocopies of specific pages from the Star Guide by Szabó. The pages of that atlas aren't coated and therefore not appropriate to be used in the wet nights in Holland.


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Astraforce Paul
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Mining Constellations! [Re: Hyperion]
      #3254093 - 08/04/09 06:28 PM

As a change of pace, I often mine constellations... pick a constellation that's well placed for the evening and observe its best and brightest, especially a diverse collection of objects (double stars, clusters, galaxies, etc.)

Some great observing guide books for helping with that are Eicher's Universe from My Backyard and Sanford's Observing the Constellations. Sanford's has the advantage of Tirion star charts (Eicher's has odd, older looking cruder drawings as star maps). It also a good double star list. But Eicher's often discusses more objects and at greater length. They complement each other well.

In the more cryptic category is The Observer's Sky Atlas: With 50 Star Charts Covering the Entire Sky by Erich Karkoschka. It's another good one, with helpful finder charts.

A non-book approach for this is using Astrocards, organized by constellation. You can simply take out, in your pocket, a collection of the 3x5 cards for the constellation(s) you are interested in. If you get their NGC, Messier, and double star sets, you'll have lots to look at.


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