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Kris.
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Re: Mars 15/08/09 new [Re: rolandlinda3]
      #3283893 - 08/20/09 12:58 PM

it's definitely an improvement for deepsky (spent a night hunting globulars and nebulae this week, everything looks so much better!).
on jupiter i can see more easily the same levels of detail (and more) than with my 8".
i haven't looked at saturn, but i guess that'l be the same as with Jup.
on mars, i can't really tell, i still have to do a side by side comparison with the 8 incher. i also have no experience with observing mars at 5" with the other scope. but it's almost sure to be a step up from the 8". still have to compare the mirror quality though i think that's all right.

the binoviewer is an all different story. in fact i'm not happy with it. i bought it exclusively for high power planetary observing, but whatever i do, i just can merge the image(s) of mars. i can almost merge the views of jupiter, but in both cases the image is really bad, when i see loads of detail in mono-mode, i can see *none* with the BV. i had a quick look at some deepsky objects with it, and M13 was truly breathtaking with it. but that's not where i bought the thing for! no one told me, and i didn't search well enough, that you best avoid using eyepieces of 10mm focal lenght or less... that's too bad cause i also acquired a second set of orthos ranging from 4mm to 12.5mm with which i always do my planetary observing & sketching!

i don't really know what to do with the binoviewer, fact is i can't use it with my orthos. only thing i can still try if i want to use the bv is sell the second set of orthos and buy some ep's between 25 and 10mm and use the bv in high power modus so i can still achieve reasonable powers with it to observe the planets. but that means buying 4, 6 or even 8 new eyepieces !

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Kris

To be old & wise, you first gotta be young & stupid

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CarlosEH
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Re: Mars 15/08/09 new [Re: rolandlinda3]
      #3284098 - 08/20/09 02:39 PM Attachment (4 downloads)

Kris,

I am sorry that I have not responded to your excellent observation of Mars sooner but I wanted to be able to identify the albedo features for you. Your were able to view a good amount of detail over Mars. Thank you for sharing it with us all.

As Michael points out, your observation reminds us of the observation made by the French-Italian astronomer and mathematician Giacomo Filippo Maraldi (1665-1729) in 1719. This observation points out the permanence of the major Martian albedo features over time with intermittent changes in certain regions of the planet over time.

I look forward to your future observations of Mars.

Carlos

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rolandlinda3
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Re: Mars 15/08/09 new [Re: Kris.]
      #3292938 - 08/25/09 10:38 AM

Kris, sorry I did not get back to you on your reply. That is good news on your new scope. ON THE BINOVIEWERS: If you bought them new from Denkmeier, he is really nice about returns. Some people have a real issue with merging images, so you are not the first. I have a reduced problem with binoviewers but it is not bad enough to warrant drastic action. So, you might check about returning them. But if they do not work, by all means opt for something else and sell them. They retain good value because they really are a good product. The best to you....

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Re: Mars 15/08/09 new [Re: rolandlinda3]
      #3293212 - 08/25/09 12:55 PM

Kris,

I have the same problem with all binoviewers. I didn't understand why till a little while ago when I had my eyes checked. It turns out that one of my eyes is 7 degrees off from the other, therefore I can't easily merge images.

It doesn't affect everyday life but it can be a problem with binoculars and binoviewers.

Best,

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Kris.
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Re: Mars 15/08/09 [Re: Sol Robbins]
      #3293467 - 08/25/09 03:00 PM

thanks for labeling the sketch carlos i really appreciate that

Roland & Sol, it's good to hear from fellow sketchers that i'm not the only one having some problems with a binoviewer!
do you think i could solve the merging issue by using longer focal lengths ep's? (in the bv high power modus)
i'm guessing it should be a little easier to look through two ep's with larger eye lenses simultaneously than 2 ortho-peepholes?
on the other hand, it hink the exit pupil will be the same if i use the same powers, so it won't do nothing to help?

i'm willing to give this a shot, and if that doesn't work, i will sell it, i'll ask but i don't think returning will be easy since it would have to be shipped over again. i can always try to sell it here in belgium and europe though.

thanks for the info!

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Kris

To be old & wise, you first gotta be young & stupid

8" dob
AstroTech 66ED/APO
TAL 120 newt.

my CN sketch & picture gallery


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