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JDBraddy
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Hi,
I decided to take the plunge, and try a pair of the new economy 100mm bino's that have come out recently, notably the 25X100's from Apogee, the 25X100's from Burgess Optical, and the 22X100's from Big Binoculars.com are all in the $300-$350 range. I've not heard much with respect to comparing one to any of the others. I already have an older heavy duty unimount, not the millinium model, that Larry rates to handle 12lb. bino's with no problem, but it would make moving up to the already much more expensive 25/40 military style bino's that weigh in at 26-28lbs, even more cost prhibative, becuause I would have to upgrade my mount as well. I called all three dealers, and asked them why they thought their bino's might be better/worse than the others. All where fairly honest and said they felt hadn't directly compared them. I wound up flipping a coin and decided to order the Burgess glasses, but would like to hear any experience/opinions with respect to why this may or may not have been the best choice. Thanks, JDBraddy
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Pat G.
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All right JD! You da man 
I am so close to taking the plunge myself. Please let us know how you like them when you get them and the clouds part.
Pat G.
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JDBraddy
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Thanks, now if I can just get a few other folks, to get the other makes and models, then get them all together in one place, at the same time, sheesh, this review stuff is complicated. Who's bringing the beer?
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J.D.,
I'd bring the beer but I don't know where the comparo-party is going to be. If it's around the Johnson Space Center and Houston, then it's a "go". Come to think of it, if it's around the Johnson Space Center and Houston we probably won't be able to see much more than the moon, a really bright planet or the sun (and on some days we probably wouldn't even need filters  ).
Good luck with the purchase, Nick
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JDBraddy
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J.D.,
I'd bring the beer but I don't know where the comparo-party is going to be. If it's around the Johnson Space Center and Houston, then it's a "go". Come to think of it, if it's around the Johnson Space Center and Houston we probably won't be able to see much more than the moon, a really bright planet or the sun (and on some days we probably wouldn't even need filters ).
Good luck with the purchase, Nick
Actually Nick, that's not too far for me, I'm in San Antonio. How about the next time the Johnson Space Center group comes out to Ft. McKavett?
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Anonymous
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J.D.,
I'm not currently affiliated with the JSC group or the Houston Astronomical Society that meets out there (although I keep planning to start attending). When I do, I'll post a notice... and fill-up the cooler.  Nick
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Anonymous
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Not a day goes by that the goalposts don't get moved. Oberwerk's new 45deg. 20/40*100, Myuchi lookalikes seem too good to be true. Has anyone out there tried them yet?
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i finally gave up the ghost and bought the apogee's 25x100mm......the reviews are very acurate on this one, and for $300. you just cant gripe....i chose the apogee's strictly because of their better overall reviews.......put them against my stellarvue at1010, and subjected it to my ultra contrast test in daylight!!!!!....you see i've got this 400yard long field across from my house, at the extreme fenceline are solid woods.....in bright sunlight this forms a solid black wall of trees.......with or without a celestron viewer the stellarvue could not penetrate those woods.......i could see in aprox 40-50 yrds. with the binos !!!!!.....
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Anonymous
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THE APOGEE 25X100MM ARE GREAT NIGHT TIME PERFORMERS AS WELL AS FOR TERRA FIRMA !!!!.....THE REVIEWS STATE SOFTNESS OF 20% TO THE EDGE & THAT ABOUT RIGHT FOR MY PAIR......BUT UP AGAINST THAT STELLARVUE AT NIGHT USING THE SAME POWER IN THE EYEPIECE {russell 19mm wa } the playing field evens up a bit with the stellarvue giving sharper images.....BUT THIS IS A BINO......A $300 BINO....SO, NO COMPLAINTS....I LIKE UM'..........also the 3063 bogen panhead rated for 11 lbs. hold these fine.....and if you get the tension correct AND the binos balanced the avalanche effect is negligible.
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jrcrilly
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I'm considering a set myself even though I looked through a club member's units over the weekend and found them unusable. They were sharp and bright but collimation was awful; objects in the lower right quadrant on one side were in the lower left quadrant in the other. Merging was completely impossible. From reviews I've read I'm certain they can do better than that - dunno why he is putting up with his.
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JDBraddy
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All right JD! You da man
I am so close to taking the plunge myself. Please let us know how you like them when you get them and the clouds part.
Pat G.
Hi, I've had them (Burgess 25x100) a couple weeks now, and had them out under pretty good skies about four times now. I'm quite pleased with them. They are much better than I expected them to be. Their where no cosmetic deficencies. They where perfectly collumated. They are not as sharp as my 80mm Stellarvue refractor, but much brighter, and have about the same FOV as the Stellarvue 28X with the 65° AFOV of my 17mm LVSW eyepiece. I'm hesitant to say this, but even though I've taken my 16X70 Fujinons with me each time I've taken them out, I've not yet wanted to take the Burgess glasses off the mount and use the Fuji's. They do have detectable edge distortion, but it's not enough to bother me. My 10X50 Orion Ultravue's have much softer immages, and much worse edge correction. I realize one day soon, I'll have to do a side by side with my Fuji's and the Burgess glasses, to compare things like AFOV, edge sharpness and conotrast, but the extra aperture, and magnification, put the Burgess glasses almost into another category of instrument. They are almost as diffrent from my Fuji's as they are from my Stellarvue Refractor.
Edited by EdZ (03/30/04 11:59 AM)
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