candymancan
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So tonight was perfect it was going down to the low 50's in temp . I went out at 9 pm despite the moon being out. I decited to try for the lagoon and trifid nebula I havent had any luck seeing them in the past. I found the star cluster where the trifid nebula was a bunch of time but I couldn't see a hint of it. Tonight i went down to the lagoon and found the stars and yes! The nebula was there altho it was only a small part of it. It was the bright part sitting above the star. Showed my mom she saw it also.
Next I found the dumbell nebula..... I have been looking for that for over 2 months and finally I found it by looking for m71 first then moving to it. It doesn't look like much just a big almost hour glass kinda fuzzy ball.
I next found the omega nebula for some reason this one was really easy to find. It's entire elongated shape was easily seen. Showed it to my mom she could see it also. This one was pretty cool to look at. I tried going up to find the eagle nebula but all I saw were a cluster of stars I don't think my 10 Inch can see the nebula at least with it being only 35degrees up and with the moon to the left.
Then I found the most impressive cluster I have ever seen m11 the wild duck cluster most of the stars were very dim but I could make them all out ang holy ppop it's awsome looking.. Almost looks fake it's so real , there are so many stars grouped in that thing it blows away the double cluster.
All In all I found all this in 4 hours.
Lagoon nebula
Trifid cluster
M21
M17
M16
M18
M11
M71
M27
that is a copy paste from my notepad on my iPod. I found all these nebula and clusters with the help of my iPod touchs skywatch app. I also took a peek at Jupiter and the ring nebula. I tried to find Neptune but for some reason I can't find it. I go to the left of Jupiter an find those 3 stars in a line doing verticle and to the left of the middle one should be Neptune but with so many dots over there I can't tell.
Anyway I found 3 new nebula tonight should have been 5 but the trifid and eagle nebula were like invisible to me even tho I could see cluster of stars where they should have been.
I wish sometimes I had a bigger telescope tho the 10" I'm learning can't see much of anything out these objects in my sky's .
I really hope to get out to a clearer skies to see how much better these objects look. Anyway I finally found my elusive dumbell nebula along with 2 others:). More then I had seen In 2 months. Sorry I misspelled alot of words this iPod autofixes words sometimes and actually misspells them.
Oh I tried to fi d the witchs broom and veil nebula they were high up in the sky but I ciulndt find them. The thing I made from using a protractor to see how high I'm pointing sucks it's off by so much... And it's hard to find objects high in the sky with a compass I notced also I'm ussually off like10 or 20 degrees for some reason.. I know I could have probably easily seen them with them being only mag6 and so huge but maybe next time.
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Edited by candymancan (09/01/09 03:06 AM)
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Well done, Candyman! That's a good night. 
Do you have a unit finder like a Rigel Quikfinder or Telrad on your dob? They can make some of those searches much easier.
Also, see if you can get your scope out to some darker skies. It can make an amazing difference in how well you see things.
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candymancan
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thanks . : )
No I don't have those items you mentioned . I don't have a laptop to use stellarium so I can star hopp. I have to use my iPod touch and the program I have doesn't keep a good record of stars. All it really shows are deepspace objects an stuff like that. So I have too look for say the lagoon nebula then it'll show how high up and the direction it's at. Then I use my compass and and the litlle protractor thing. Then I look in the 30mm ep and hope ipointed right lol.. I didn't do to bad doing it like tho but some things are hard to find like this. Look up goskywatch. On YouTube. That's the app I use
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Edited by candymancan (09/01/09 01:58 AM)
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David Knisely
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Most diffuse emission nebulae like the Lagoon, Trifid, and the Veil are nearly invisible by moonlight. Try them again when the moon is gone and they should be a lot easier to see. You might also consider getting a nebula filter, as they can help a great deal sometimes (I recommend the DGM Optics NPB filter). Clear skies to you.
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Alpha Orionis
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go to a dark site with that 10incher (preferably blue area or better)and it'll be a whole new experience. every "old" object will gain a new dimension, and new objects will never cease to surprise u.
when u go to a dark sky, take a high mag ep, that gives around 250x and pan across the omega nebula. it will look 3D with its "bumps" and ropy texture
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candymancan
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go to a dark site with that 10incher (preferably blue area or better)and it'll be a whole new experience. every "old" object will gain a new dimension, and new objects will never cease to surprise u.
when u go to a dark sky, take a high mag ep, that gives around 250x and pan across the omega nebula. it will look 3D with its "bumps" and ropy texture
MM that wold be nice to see..
There is no blue sky's around my house the closest green is a little over an hour away. I'll have to plan a trip like that, but im not sure where to go in that green zone. Suppose ill have to find some kind of park on the map or something.. or stop on the side of a road ...
Btw is 25-35 degree's as high up as the trifid/lagoon, omega ect go up in the sky ? Im looking at the diff months of the year and it seems they dont go any higher on the east coast Virginia.
I'll have to wait till the 10th and up for the moon to be out of view early in the night at 9-12pm when they are highest in the sky. Hopefully it wont be cloudy like it always seems to be on moonless nights lol.
Now I'll post back later im off to setup outside for the Orion nebula.. Its should be starting to show up around now and 4pm.
David is this the filter you were talking about ? http://www.omegafiltersebuyer.com/servlet/the-NPB-Filters/Categories
What makes this better then those O3 filters iv been reading about randomly on the forum ? http://www.telescopes.com/telescope-accessories/filters/celestronoxygeniiinarrowbandfilter125inch.cfm
Im not sure if i should get the 2" or 1.25" i seemed to use my 30mm alot when looking at the nebula i found. At least when i was looking for them.
Edited by candymancan (09/01/09 05:37 AM)
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David Knisely
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Yup, that is the NPB. It is good because it is one of the narrower of the true "narrow-band" nebula filters that lets in both the Oxygen III nebular emission lines and the H-Beta line. An OIII filter will provide more contrast on some objects that are mainly Oxygen III emitters, but for others with a mix of Oxygen III and H-Beta (or just H-Beta), it is best to have a narrow-band filter in your filter arsenal. Indeed, the NPB filter on some OIII objects provides nearly as much of a contrast boost as a true OIII filter does. For a "1-filter" recommendation, the NPB is just the ticket, but if you can afford two, having both the NPB and a good OIII filter (Lumicon OIII for example) gives you the best of both worlds. Clear skies to you.
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candymancan
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I took some pics of Orion... 5MP cam by hand lol so its shakey and poor quality... Looks 100x better in person but whatever lol...
Here is one.. I know it sucks but its a 5MP cam i held by hand
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Edited by candymancan (09/01/09 06:22 AM)
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Rob E
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There is no blue sky's around my house the closest green is a little over an hour away. I'll have to plan a trip like that, but im not sure where to go in that green zone. Suppose ill have to find some kind of park on the map or something.. or stop on the side of a road ...
candyman, sent you a PM.
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Very good job, candymancan! Especially since there is a bright moon in the sky.
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Tim L
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Way to go! To find all of that--with the moon present--I hope you're patting yourself on the back! You did well, and now you've hit more of those nebulae you were after! Wait 'til you get to see them again with no moon!
On the Trifid: it's pretty faint under LP w/o a filter, and won't stand out as much as the Lagoon. Wait for the moon to get out of the way, and then if you can get a slight hint of it's presence, consider that a "score."
For the Eagle and Veil, you may have to wait for a trip to a darker site--but keep trying! Your practice will sharpen your hunting and observing skills, and when you do get to a dark site, you'll hop right to them and...wow! (both benefit from a filter).
Here's another PN you might enjoy--try for the "Blinking Planetary" near the top right of the "cross" in Cygnus. It's small, but bright--and when you look right at it, it "blinks" and disappears--kinda cool. You can only see it with averted vision. And nearby you can look up U Cygni, a blood-red double that's been getting some attention in the doubles forum.
As far as 1.25" vs. 2" filter, the nice thing with a 2" is you can still use it with your 1.25" eyepieces by screwing the filter into the bottom of the 1.25" adapter that comes with the Z10. But be careful: I think the 9mm supplied with the Z10 protrudes too far down into the adapter and would scratch a filter. Be sure to test each eyepiece in your adapter first.
Again, congratulations on a good night with lots of hits! 
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