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Pedestal
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Rita
      #3308885 - 09/01/09 06:07 PM Attachment (85 downloads)

I'm a great fan of Rita Hayworth. She was a classic, and hopefully, this project will recreate a classic. What we got here, is a 6" long FL newt. Mark Harry was kind enough to take on the task of finishing the mirror. It's not coated yet, hopefully it'll get done sometime this month. (Company recommendations?) It turned out with a FL of 52.44", hitting what I was shooting for (F8-F9) dead on. HERE is the story of the mirror, as told by Mark.
I wanted something a bit unusual, so here is -part- of the story in pictures.
I started laying out the bulkheads on 8"x8" birch ply. 4 3/8" and 4 1/2"

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Hubert
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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308890 - 09/01/09 06:09 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

I decided the only proper way to make the hexagons was a jig.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308894 - 09/01/09 06:11 PM Attachment (43 downloads)

I lightly glued all the bulkheads together, then using another jig, cut the slots for the stringers.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308898 - 09/01/09 06:15 PM Attachment (36 downloads)

I don't have any shots of cutting the centers out. This is where Rita got it's name-it was a B***H! Here, I'm starting assembly of the bulkheads and stringers. The stringers are 1/8" oak, that I cut from an oak board.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308905 - 09/01/09 06:16 PM Attachment (49 downloads)

Here is a shot of the almost completed assembly.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308908 - 09/01/09 06:19 PM

Looks good so far!!

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Paul

Zhumell 10" (My Mistress - name given by my wife)
Hyperions - 5mm, 13mm and 24mm
Stratus - 8mm and 17mm
Howie Glatter 2"-1 1/4" Holograpic w/ Barlow
Lumicon OIII Filter
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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308909 - 09/01/09 06:20 PM Attachment (37 downloads)

Once the cage was completed, I taped off major glue joints and painted the assembly flat black.

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Hubert
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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308916 - 09/01/09 06:23 PM

Nice start to the project Hubert!
Looks like your wood working skills are up to the task.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308919 - 09/01/09 06:24 PM Attachment (44 downloads)

The flat black paint was pretty reflective. So I glued black felt to each bulkhead, then started assembly of the skin. Each piece was cut at a 45 degree angle, the fitted in place and glue joints marked. Then black felt strips were glued to each piece, and then glued to the bulkheads.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308924 - 09/01/09 06:26 PM Attachment (32 downloads)

The corners were fiberglassed, 1" wide tape.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308935 - 09/01/09 06:30 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

Humidity defense: Everything got a preliminary coat of primer. Note the duct tape seal inside the tube. I try to seal both ends for most of the sanding to keep dust out of the interior.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3308944 - 09/01/09 06:33 PM Attachment (51 downloads)

Well, one can dream a bit when you're doing this, can't you?
(this is all for today)

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3309094 - 09/01/09 07:44 PM

This is a very clever jig you came up with. Especially since it allows for the creation of identical, multiple octagonal parts without guesswork. I presume you cut out the center with a drill press and a fly cutter attachment. That was how I made the end caps for my 6-inch Dob, whose hexagonal tube is made of Cherry edge glued together.

Taras

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10-inch F/4.5 Discovery Dob
6-inch F/8 Homebuilt Dob
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Re: Rita new [Re: Achernar]
      #3309953 - 09/02/09 07:12 AM

Doggone, Hubert; How'd you get the wife to allow the use of her dining table, and granite countertop!!!
Mark
BTW, nice work!

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Re: Rita new [Re: Mark Harry]
      #3310119 - 09/02/09 09:14 AM

I like it!

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Stefan Van de Rostijne

4.5" F4.5 newt 5°widefield/finderscope
8" f/5.6 travel dob
old 12.5" F5 dob (used to look better...)
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Re: Rita new [Re: Stefan Rostyne]
      #3310636 - 09/02/09 01:25 PM

That looks like it is turning out great. Very impressive work. Was your wife out of the house when you used the table and countertops? Doing something like that for me just might get me killed.

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Re: Rita new [Re: Darenwh]
      #3310827 - 09/02/09 02:51 PM

You didn't show the cutting of the circles out. I made two cases for scopes where I cut out circles for the cradle inside. The first time, I mounted the 1/2" baltic in a lathe and used a parting tool. It needed so much careful sanding, I nearly quit. The second time, I had a jigsaw but I needed to do it twice, as I had little experience using one.

I can't begin to guess how difficult it was to place and glue the 8 splines. You could have gone to 1/4" but that would require the always expensive and difficult to use dado blade. With that much support, you could get away with just using a sheet of veneer. Think of it, walnut burl veneer like a Rolls-Royce dashboard.

How did you attach the fiberglass tape?


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Re: Rita new [Re: JohnH]
      #3310917 - 09/02/09 03:36 PM

I'll see if I can answer some questions. Yes the plan was to use a fly cutter in a drill press to cut the centers out, however, due to various circumstances, I mostly used a scroll saw.
The 8 splines were overkill, I think you coulda stood on the thing after it was together. Placing them was not bad, once I got the first couple in. I held them in place temporarily with pieces of masking tape.
I wanted to make the skin from 3/32" or maybe even smaller but it was just not available anywhere in the Houston area in the quantities I needed. (Lotsa places had 1 or 2 pieces....) As for walnut veneer, have you priced that stuff lately?????
Edited to add: The fiberglassing is ordinary marine epoxy. I'll also be using the epoxy with "micro balloons" on the rear splines. I've been wanted to try that stuff.
I have a very understanding wife.... It's an old table, and I was really careful to cover the countertop when necessary....

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Re: Rita new [Re: Pedestal]
      #3310967 - 09/02/09 04:01 PM

Nice job!

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Some bino’s from Miyauchi 5x32 Binon's up through Garrett 20x110 Signature's,
Some telescopes from a Stellarvue 80mm NHNG up through a couple of 8” reflectors…
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Re: Rita new [Re: Wes James]
      #3311277 - 09/02/09 06:22 PM

Very nice work Hubert. I have a soft spot for octagonal tubes and /5 BMW motorcycles.

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Andy

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6" f5 refractor
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