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Oregon Don
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Reged: 08/25/09
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Loc: Southern Oregon, USA
Coma
      #3329157 - 09/12/09 03:09 AM

I have the Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars. I haven't used them in quite awhile but looked through them tonight and can't get stars to focus to a nice pinpoint. They flare inside and outside of focus, which I understand is coma. Any way to correct this or is it just a function of inexpensive binoculars.

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10" Hardin Dob
5" Orion 120 Refractor
Homebuilt 6" Dob
Orion ST80
Celestron 70mm Binos


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daniel_h
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Reged: 03/08/08
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Loc: VIC, Australia
Re: Coma new [Re: Oregon Don]
      #3329218 - 09/12/09 04:57 AM

I understand coma is a newtonian flaw in which the edge stars are blurry - it isn't a problem of a refractor. the skymaster's don't have a great reputation though for sharpness or good quality control. what were the viewing conditions like - what is the focus like during the day?

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regal 10x42, 10x50ultras, 15x70 ultras, 20x80
Oly e-500, vixen 100/1000 with 0.965"/1.25",
2 old sturdy tripods for the bins (slik & velbon)
zeiss f5.6 refractor/lens (under construction)


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GlennLeDrew
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Re: Coma new [Re: daniel_h]
      #3330339 - 09/12/09 07:06 PM

Coma isn't limited to reflector telescopes. It is a defect found in refractor optics as well, and normally rears its ugly head *off-axis*, if the optic is properly aligned.

If you're seeing an aberrated image on-axis, and it's not attributable to astigmatism in your own eyes, then something is significantly out of alignment in the bino. I've all too often seen cases where, in order to achieve collimation, a bino must have significant tilt introduced into the prism train. This can be the source of your problem. (Not to mention other possible defects to be found in a quickly-produced, inexpensive instrument which can receive only so much attention lavished upon it during the quality control process.)

I have examined several of these Celestron 15X70's, and a couple have been deplorable regarding optic train alignment, *even if well collimated*.

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Modified 26X100 bino, 3.5 deg. FOV
Home-made Mk II RA bino, using interchangeable objectives and eyepieces

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BillC
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Re: Coma new [Re: GlennLeDrew]
      #3333251 - 09/14/09 12:15 PM

COMA in refractors is increased with Shorter ratios (binos are about f/3,5 to f/4.1, with the really big units going to f/6) and increased aperture.

Cheers,

Bill

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