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orionspotter
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I need some help picking out a couple of easy to view diffuse nebulae viewable on the 19th from lat 35. I could also use some suggestions on planetary nebulae, supernovas, etc.
I'm holding a "class" of sorts for our local homeschooling group and the lesson I'm making is about the life of a star. I'd like to step them through the explanation of the birth, life, and death of stars all the while taking time to stop at each stage to show them an example of these stages and types of stars. I have a 10" SCT that we'll be viewing out.
I'm working like crazy at this, but it hasn't stopped raining for 3 weeks here (in the desert no less) and I can't get any viewing time in. I will probably have to cancel the dang thing anyway, but so far the forecast shows it will be clear for the 19th only. Either way, I don't want to leave them with nothing. I'm writing the lesson up in my blog so they can at least get online and teach the lesson to their kids.
Thanks!! Katrina
-------------------- 10" Meade LX200 SCT on a CG5-GT
80mm iOptron SmartStar (kids' scope)
Galileoscope (kids' scope #2)
Celestron SkyScout (really fun for the kiddos...love this thing)
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JakeSaloranta
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I need some help picking out a couple of easy to view diffuse nebulae viewable on the 19th from lat 35. I could also use some suggestions on planetary nebulae, supernovas, etc.
If your "students" do not have experience in looking through a telescope...your best bet will be bright Messier and NGC-objects.
Nebulae: M8-region (first pick), M17, NGC 281, NGC 1491, NGC 896-region and M42 (if stay up late enough).
PN: M57, M27, NGC 6826, NGC 7662... plenty of objects here.
SNR: Messier 1, NGC 6960 & 6992-5 complex.
/Jake
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orionspotter
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Thanks Jake! We've had some crazy weather this Summer and have had very little time to get out to view. I hope our class won't get cancelled, but our chances aren't great.
-------------------- 10" Meade LX200 SCT on a CG5-GT
80mm iOptron SmartStar (kids' scope)
Galileoscope (kids' scope #2)
Celestron SkyScout (really fun for the kiddos...love this thing)
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Achernar
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In Cygnus there's the supernova remnant known as the Veil nebula, which consists of NGC-6960, 6992 and NGC-6995 spread out over an area of nearly three degrees. From a good site it's evident in a 6-inch, at least the first two sections. In a ten-inch you start seeing streaks of nebulosity and NGC-6995, also known as the Witch's Broom appears.
Two other Cygnus nebula that would be good objects to show your students are the North American Nebula, also known as NGC-7000. Bring a small, wide field telescope so the outline can be made out or use a focal reducer and a low power, wide angle eyepiece. Inside this nebula is a star cluster whose young, hot and massive stars are exciting the gases into glowing. Powerful ultraviolet radiation from these stars excite atoms, which then re-emit the energy as visible light.
The other is the Cresent Nebula, also known as NGC-6888. This nebula is the ejected outer envelope of a Wolf-Rayet star that is going to explode as a supernova at any time in the next several hundred thousand years. It's already used up the hydrogen in it's core and is now a massive ball of heavier elements for which time is rapidly running out. When it goes off as a supernova, it will undoubtedly light up our skies just like the one that formed the Veil Nebula as recently as 5,000 years ago. It's an easy object for a ten-inch, and all of these nebulae I mentioned respond very well to either O-III or narrow band nebula filters.
I would then show them M-8 and M-17, two very bright diffuse nebulae around newly formed star clusters. These objects are very bright and spectacular in any telescope and are magnificent from dark sites. Like NGC-7000, they are diffuse nebulae excited into glowing from the UV light given off by the massive, hot stars that formed inside of them.
For a planetary nebula in Cygnus, there's NGC-6826. In Andromeda there is NGC-7662 and in Aquila there's the large but ring shaped NGC-6781. Don't overlook M-57 and M-27, both of which are toroidal planetary nebulae, one where we can see into the donut hole in the center, the other oriented edge on.
All of these objects are high in the sky right now as soon as it gets dark, and from my location on the Alabama Gulf Coast they get high in the sky. I hope the weather cooperates, for the past month it's been mostly cloudy and rainy here in my city.
Taras
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orionspotter
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Thank you very much, everyone! I hope I will do a good job teaching all of this!!
-------------------- 10" Meade LX200 SCT on a CG5-GT
80mm iOptron SmartStar (kids' scope)
Galileoscope (kids' scope #2)
Celestron SkyScout (really fun for the kiddos...love this thing)
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wfj
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My wife has taught kids at outreach star parties the life cycle of stars, and while the details vary depending on the age of the kids (elementary to college), the approach is much the same.
She takes a ST80 on a tripod and the night before picks out a prominent star field (or cluster) that has a distribution of stars of various colors and brightness in a wide field view. This is useful to introduce that stars have different temperature and mass, and that they have different lives based on that.
Then, she finds objects denoting the beginning (M8, M42, etc) and end of life (SNR's - Veil/Crab, PN's - M57/M27) of certain kinds of stars.
If they are still involved at this point, she does globular clusters and spiral galaxies in order to talk about population I and II stars. In rare cases ends with objects like Eta Carinae, or irregular variables.
Color in ordinary stars is the best to begin with, as the kids can do this by themselves with just about any telescope they can find, in almost any direction.
Hope this helps and clear skies to you.
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