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timo4352
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There's a new CHief in town...
      #3345118 - 09/20/09 04:28 PM Attachment (132 downloads)

Well,not quite yet.
But I did get a start on my CHief project after spending a few weeks drawing up plans and agonizing over the details.
The lower end shown here is made from 5/8 baltic birch. 45 degree box joints - 240 of them -
It was a fun trick getting it all glued up and clamped before the glue started to dry.
The Fedex man dropped off my mirror yesterday While I was cutting the wood. Surplus Shed is gonna supply a 1/20th wave secondary. I've yet to order my lenses though.
The plywood was free! - a cabinet at work was being thrown out and I recycled it. I've got 10 coats of shellac on the box now. More to come in the days ahead - once I start a project things move along pretty quickly. Still a few details to be worked out on the fly.
Tim

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Orion 3.6CA Reflector
and 2 homebrew scopes --
8" Hubble Bubble ballscope
8" F/8 CHief - nearing completion


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: timo4352]
      #3345155 - 09/20/09 04:51 PM

That is beautifull! How did you do those joints so perfect?

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: neo]
      #3345205 - 09/20/09 05:24 PM

great very nice /you will love the views/kevin frederick

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: timo4352]
      #3345219 - 09/20/09 05:34 PM

Whoa! That's a fine looking box. Your telescope is going to be beautiful with craftsmanship like that. Nice job.

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Andrew

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: senske]
      #3345235 - 09/20/09 05:39 PM

Can you share some of the optical specs? As in, primary size and focal length, details of the corrective lenses, etc.

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Tom
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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: perfessor]
      #3345277 - 09/20/09 06:00 PM

The trick I hear for finger joints like that is to use white glue vs. the yellow stuff (which has this nice official name I can't spell ).

Dang nice job so far.

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: rboe]
      #3345475 - 09/20/09 07:52 PM

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the yellow stuff (which has this nice official name I can't spell




... Aliphatic Resin... !
Beautiful finger joint work... the 45 degree angles throws a whole 'nother spin on them. Nice job!


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: Wes James]
      #3345505 - 09/20/09 08:08 PM

Yes, very nice woodworking.

Gary


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: neo]
      #3345515 - 09/20/09 08:12 PM

Quote:

That is beautifull! How did you do those joints so perfect?




I made a rather simple 45 degree jig for the table saw and use a dado cutter. I can post a pic if anyones interested...

Quote:

Can you share some of the optical specs? As in, primary size and focal length, details of the corrective lenses, etc.




It's an 8" F/8 parabolic mirror - (from Iowa Scientific, by the way, if anybody has any info on thier mirrors I'd love to hear it) I'll be using a round 50mm 1/20th wave secondary from Surplus Shed and one each +/-500mm 50mm dia lenses. The perscription is posted on the Spiderless Yahoo group under files 8" F/8

Thanks All
Tim

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and 2 homebrew scopes --
8" Hubble Bubble ballscope
8" F/8 CHief - nearing completion


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: rboe]
      #3345543 - 09/20/09 08:36 PM

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The trick I hear for finger joints like that is to use white glue vs. the yellow stuff (which has this nice official name I can't spell ).




You mean E-l-m-e-r-s ???

Wish I would've know that sooner. Live and learn. Maybe next time...

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and 2 homebrew scopes --
8" Hubble Bubble ballscope
8" F/8 CHief - nearing completion


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: timo4352]
      #3345546 - 09/20/09 08:37 PM

I too love the box joinery!

I can't wait to see how the scope performs. Do you image with your scopes?

-tim

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: tim53]
      #3345573 - 09/20/09 08:55 PM

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Do you image with your scopes?
-tim




I don't, but someday that may change. I've already got a Dob Driver for this scope on my mind - so maybe...cheaply - point and shoot stuff
Tim

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and 2 homebrew scopes --
8" Hubble Bubble ballscope
8" F/8 CHief - nearing completion


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: timo4352]
      #3346260 - 09/21/09 08:30 AM

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You mean E-l-m-e-r-s ???




Actually, Titebond... Elmers was kind of a latecomer in the "yellow-stuff" game!
Your jig obviously was carefully set up and tweaked! The longer the length of the piece being cut for box joints, the more difficult it is to keep the spacing from developing a cumulative error. I know- I've wasted a lot of wood trying to set up box joint jigs for longer runs!
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Re: There's a new CHief in town... new [Re: Wes James]
      #3346309 - 09/21/09 09:12 AM

I now use Titebond III for complex glueups because of its long open time.

Ross

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: timo4352]
      #3346447 - 09/21/09 10:50 AM

Nice joinery Tim! I'm glad to see other folks making these. How tall is your box?

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: timo4352]
      #3346656 - 09/21/09 12:32 PM

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I made a rather simple 45 degree jig for the table saw and use a dado cutter. I can post a pic if anyones interested...






Please do.

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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: davidpitre]
      #3346726 - 09/21/09 01:03 PM

Very nice workmanship! pretty impressive!
Ron's right, white glue is the way to go for this kind of joints.
Congrats!

Gonzalo


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: orion63]
      #3346768 - 09/21/09 01:17 PM

They all make white and yellow glue, although Elmers is associated with the white glue - most folks would assume you ment white.

Wes: Shoot, now I can't even pronounce it! Thanks for piping in with the correct name.

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timo4352
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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: Ed Jones]
      #3346848 - 09/21/09 01:42 PM

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Nice joinery Tim! I'm glad to see other folks making these. How tall is your box?




Ed
It's only 15 inches... I'm kinda flying by the seat of my pants here... I'm hoping the extra weight of the 5/8 ply will allow the shorter box... time will tell...


Quote:

They all make white and yellow glue, although Elmers is associated with the white glue - most folks would assume you ment white.




Sorry Ron
I really meant the whole Elmers thing as a joke - I have a strange sense of humor sometimes...

But the tip on the white glue did sink into my sometimes thick skull - Thanks

Tim

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and 2 homebrew scopes --
8" Hubble Bubble ballscope
8" F/8 CHief - nearing completion


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Re: There's a new CHief in town... [Re: timo4352]
      #3347163 - 09/21/09 03:56 PM

Ah! Hard to catch dry humor on the net. Don't ask how I know.

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