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NorthWolf
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Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides
      #3349079 - 09/22/09 01:36 PM

What do you guys think? I took these pictures with my point and shoot camera, tried real hard but havent really figured out the settings yet

Jupiter 1



Jupiter 2



Jupiter 3



Jupiter 4



Uranus (Tungsten color setting) (I need a Digi T adapter!)



Pleiades 1



Pleiades 2



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Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: NorthWolf]
      #3349290 - 09/22/09 03:06 PM

Beginning just like I was I see. Not bad at all for your first images. My very first were some shots of the moon and one of Mars.

If you can, and are willing, go ahead and get yourself a Philips ToUcam or the Philips Spc900 webcams and really start impressing yourself.

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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: RedIrocZ-28]
      #3349442 - 09/22/09 04:13 PM

Pretty cool that you were able to get Uranus!! I still have trouble finding it!! My only suggestion...try Scopetronix for a digital camera adapter for your eyepiece / camera setup...makes a world of difference!!!
...and also a remote shutter release...this will help avoid or reduce any unsteadiness greatly!!!
Otherwise, NorthWolf!! Good luck and keep the pics coming!!!

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NorthWolf
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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: RobertED]
      #3349596 - 09/22/09 05:31 PM

Thx guys!, Robert thx for the shutter release suggestion, good idea, I am having communication problems with Scopetronix though, they dont seem to want to respond to emails hmmm, will have to call them.

I also posted a chart on how to quickly find Uranus here Uranus Thread

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Orion SkyQuest XT10
Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
Itouch + Starmap Pro
www.AfocalAstrophotography.com



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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: NorthWolf]
      #3349886 - 09/22/09 07:39 PM

NorthWolf, I did have a good experience...(a couple of yrs ago) speaking with someone at Scopetronix. I had a few questions regarding digital camera adapters. Sorry, I just don't remember his name!! Good Luck!!
...and thanks for the Uranus info!!!


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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: RobertED]
      #3350611 - 09/23/09 01:37 AM

Run the jupiter pictures through registax, specifically the wavelets. There's a lot more of the planet in your pictures than it seems at first glance

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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: Hrundi]
      #3351196 - 09/23/09 10:01 AM

Ok, I will.

Also, concering this quote:

"By experimenting, I found that my best exposures were 1/160 second, with focus set at infinity and the camera's built-in optical zoom set to maximum (3x). "

What does set to infinity mean? Doesnt it mean setting your optical zoom at it's maximum?

Also, the reason I may be getting blurry images is because:

"As with film astrophotography, you need to obtain perfect focus, since any errors will show up prominently. You can begin by focusing the telescope visually using the eyepiece (if you use prescription glasses, wear them) and setting the camera lens to infinity. If the camera doesn’t have a manual override, just use its autofocus mode."

Duh, I didnt think of that, I should be setting the foucs through the eyepiece with my glasses on. I think...

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A Speck of Dust
Orion SkyQuest XT10
Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
Itouch + Starmap Pro
www.AfocalAstrophotography.com



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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: NorthWolf]
      #3352446 - 09/23/09 08:09 PM

The Jupiter photos look focused ok.

Your model of camera may or may not have a manual focus setting on it. Some of the Powershots do, and some do not. If it does, set your focus to manual (with my SX100 I push the left button in the circle of buttons, then select MF). Then use the buttons to make the focus slider on the display go all the way to the right (or towards the mountain symbol).

Focus and zoom are two different things. Focus on infinity first, then adjust zoom if needed.

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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: Quads]
      #3352500 - 09/23/09 08:34 PM

Quote:

The Jupiter photos look focused ok.

Your model of camera may or may not have a manual focus setting on it. Some of the Powershots do, and some do not. If it does, set your focus to manual (with my SX100 I push the left button in the circle of buttons, then select MF). Then use the buttons to make the focus slider on the display go all the way to the right (or towards the mountain symbol).

Focus and zoom are two different things. Focus on infinity first, then adjust zoom if needed.




Hi there, I somewhat have a better idea of what your taking about now, but not 100% sure.

This is the camera I have: Canon Powershot A590 IS Do you see a mountain on the controls on top?

And yes, it does have manual focus setting, when I get there I can adjust the aperture and exposure? 1/25, 1/35, etc..

Can you please help me figure out where I should set some of these settings, hope I'm not asking for too much here...It's just that I keep reading and dont understand a thing lol. Should I just leave everything on default?

Powershot A590 IS Specifications
Type of Camera
Compact digital still camera with built-in flash, 4x Optical/4x Digital/16x Combined Zoom with Optical Image Stabilizer System

Image Capture Device

Type
8.0 Megapixel, 1/2.5 inch type Charge Coupled Device (CCD)

Effective Pixels
Approx. 8.0 Megapixels

Lens

Focal Length
5.8-23.2mm f/2.6-5.5 (35mm film equivalent: 35-140mm)

Optical Zoom
4x

Focusing Range
Normal: 1.5 ft./45cm-infinity
Macro: 2.0 in.-1.5 ft./5-45cm (W), 12 in.-1.5 ft./30-45cm (T)

Autofocus System
TTL Autofocus, Manual focus (shooting standby only in movie mode)

Viewfinders

Optical Viewfinder
Real-image optical zoom viewfinder

LCD Monitor
2.5-inch amorphous silicon TFT color LCD

LCD Pixels
Approx. 115,000 pixels

LCD Coverage
100%

Aperture and Shutter

Maximum Aperture
f/2.6 (W) - f/5.5 (T)

Shutter Speed
15-1/2000 sec. (settable in Tv and M modes)

Exposure Control

ISO Sensitivity
Auto, High ISO Auto, ISO 80/100/200/400/800/1600 equivalent (Standard output sensitivity. Recommended exposure index)

Exposure Control Method
Program AE, Shutter Speed-Priority AE, Aperture-Priority AE; AE Lock

Exposure Compensation
±2 stops in 1/3-stop increments

White Balance

White Balance Control

Auto, Preset (Daylight, Cloudy, Tungsten, Fluorescent, Fluorescent H), Custom

Flash

Built-in Flash
Auto, Red-eye Reduction, Auto Red-eye Correction, Flash On, Flash Off; FE lock, Slow Synchro

Shooting Modes

Auto, Easy, P, Av, Tv, M, Portrait, Landscape, Special Scene (Foliage, Snow, Beach, Sunset, Fireworks, Night Scene, Aquarium), Indoor, Kids & Pets, Night Snapshot, Movie

Photo Effects
My Colors
Vivid, Neutral, Sepia, Black & White, Custom

Self-Timer
Activates shutter after an approx. 2-sec./10-sec. delay, Custom

Image Compression

Normal, Fine, SuperFine


Number of Recording Pixels

Still Image: 3,264 x 2,448 (Large), 2,592 x 1,944 (Medium 1), 2,048 x 1,536 (Medium 2), 1,600 x 1,200 (Medium 3/Date Stamp), 640 x 480 (Small), 3,264 x 1,832 (Widescreen)
Movie: 640 x 480 (20 fps/20 fps LP), 320 x 240 (30 fps) available up to 4GB or 60 minutes, 160 x 120 (3 minutes at 15 fps)



Powershot A590 IS Features:

8.0-megapixel CCD imager for up to poster size prints
4x optical 35-140mm f/2.6-5.5 zoom with Canon’s Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
2.5" color LCD with up to 10x playback zoom
DIGIC III imaging processor
Advanced TTL AiAF 9-point autofocus system
Face Detection AF/AE/FE technology
Canon's exclusive Motion Detection technology
Auto, Manual, Tv, Av, and 12 Pre-programmed creative scene modes for beginners
Movie mode w/sound, 640x480/320x240 up to 4GB, 160x120 up to 3 minutes
1.4fps Continuous "Burst" capture of Large/Fine images
Evaluative metering on focus point, Center-weighted or Spot options
Exposure compensation: ±2EV in 1/3-step increments
White Balance: Auto, 5 presets or Custom
Orientation sensor that automatically detects vertical or horizontal shooting
Low-light focus assist illuminator
Light-guide zoom flash, angle changes with focal length
Shutter speeds of 15 seconds to 1/2000 second
Selectable ISO settings from 80 to 1600
Voice memo (up to 60 secs) can be attached to images
Built-in microphone and speaker
Powered by two standard AA type batteries
Direct print and PictBridge Compatible
USB 2.0 high speed connectivity for PC and Mac
SD/SDHC, MMC/MMC+, and HC MMC+ memory cards, 32MB MMC+ card supplied

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A Speck of Dust
Orion SkyQuest XT10
Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
Itouch + Starmap Pro
www.AfocalAstrophotography.com



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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: NorthWolf]
      #3352528 - 09/23/09 08:47 PM

Ok I found the Manual Focus setting, it was in the Manual section, there was an option for Manual Focus, Normal and Macro, could that be it? Once I hit Manul Focus, there was a long white lne that I could adjust from 0cm to what looked like an infinity symbol.

Now I need to figure out where to leave the exposure? 1/25, 1/35? and Aperture? F2.6?

There must be some other settings too though, right?

Like Digital Zoom, should that be left off, etc

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A Speck of Dust
Orion SkyQuest XT10
Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
Itouch + Starmap Pro
www.AfocalAstrophotography.com



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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: NorthWolf]
      #3353539 - 09/24/09 10:00 AM

Yes, sounds like you found the manual focus. Adjust the white line to get infinity focus. You won't always need manual focus though. Some things, especially the Moon, the camera should focus fairly good on it's own with auto focus.

As for the other settings, they are mostly going to be trial and error. Also, the settings that work for one subject are not going to work for the next one, generally speaking. For bright Moon, let the camera do the work and use auto settings. Take note of the settings it chooses and start from there. Same with your Jupiter photos above. Note what settings the camera chose for those pictures and use them as a reference for future experiments. There are no specific settings for anything, it varies with the circumstances.

Digital zoom should be left off. And if you don't need to use optical zoom, don't.

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Canon PowerShot SX100 IS
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Re: Rate my pics of Jupiter, Uranus and Pleaides new [Re: Quads]
      #3353701 - 09/24/09 11:27 AM

Cool, thx Quads.

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Orion SkyQuest XT10
Pentax XW 5mm
Televue 24mm Pan
Televue 9mm Nagler
TV Barlow 2x, 3x
Canon Powershot A590 IS
Itouch + Starmap Pro
www.AfocalAstrophotography.com



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