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Johnny5
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Light Pollution filter
      #3353291 - 09/24/09 06:33 AM

Does imaging through a light pollution filter like Hutech's LPS2 result in longer exposure times and would I lose detail overall for short exposures?

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Re: Light Pollution filter new [Re: Johnny5]
      #3353299 - 09/24/09 06:40 AM

I haven't noticed a need to increase the exposure time using my LPS2, if anything they're shorter and the image shows more detail because the contrast is so much better.

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Jerry Lodriguss
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Re: Light Pollution filter new [Re: Johnny5]
      #3353420 - 09/24/09 08:57 AM

At the wavelengths that pass through the filter, the exposure only needs to be a little bit longer.

But the great advantage of a filter is that it *allows* longer exposures to reach the same level of sky background brightness. At these longer exposures, much more of the desirable "good" wavelengths pass through, GREATLY improving the signal-to-noise ratio.

So, what you want to do is use the histogram to determine the correct exposure (whether you're using the filter or not).

With the filter, ideally, you want to shoot about 2.5x to 3x longer than your exposures without the filter to reach the same level of sky-background brightness.

You do not want the sky to be completely black. If it is, you will not be able to separate the faint detail in a nebula or galaxy from the noise in the camera.

Expose long enough to get the faintest detail in the image up out of the readout noise of the camera. This occurs when the histogram is completely separated from the left wall of the histogram box.

See: http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/QUICK2.HTM

Then, shoot a bunch of frames at this exposure, calibrate them with darks, and stack them.

Jerry

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woodchuck
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Re: Light Pollution filter new [Re: Jerry Lodriguss]
      #3353833 - 09/24/09 12:31 PM

I can pull 3 minute subs from my backyard without my IDAS and 5 minutes with it. Definitely a big improvement.

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Ian

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