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Man in a Tub
Not Retired!, But a little cranky!!!
Reged: 10/28/08
Posts: 2054
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Ignore this post!
Oh! I see what's going on. The L Adapter is attached in reverse. Let me go try that.
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Todd
Brunton Eterna 15x51 ° Garrett Optical Signature Series 15x70
Nikon Action EX 12x50 ° Oberwerk 15x60 and 20x80 Standard
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod
Garrett Optical Series 2000 Grip-Action Monopod
Edited by Man in a Tub (09/25/09 09:39 PM)
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Man in a Tub
Not Retired!, But a little cranky!!!
Reged: 10/28/08
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 WRONG! I WAS ACTUALLY PUTTING IT ON THE RIGHT WAY!
I reversed the Paragon Plus Mount L Adapter and mounted my Celestron Skymaster 20x80 again. First, I do not think that the L Adapter and bolts are designed to support this kind of weight. Orion certainly knows there are many weights when it comes to 20x80 binoculars. Two, take a look at your manual (it's page 4 in my copy) and note the distance between the model's head and the binocular eyepieces. With the Bottom Mount Adapter, a similar distance is maintained when using binoculars with a center rail mounting post. With the way I think you presently have your 20x80 binocular mounted, your head is very close to the end of the parallogram. At or near zenith, your chin is almost literally bumping into the end of the parallelogram. I really don't want to lose my teeth if the tension knobs loosen or fail.
That's about all I can say. Once again, look at the pictures in this thread and in your Paragon Plus Mount manual.
I hope you enjoy your new mount. It's considered "entry-level" — by those who either sell or buy those pretty darn expensive, real parallelogram mounts and hefty, hefty tripods.
Clear Skies!
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Todd
Brunton Eterna 15x51 ° Garrett Optical Signature Series 15x70
Nikon Action EX 12x50 ° Oberwerk 15x60 and 20x80 Standard
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod
Garrett Optical Series 2000 Grip-Action Monopod
Edited by Man in a Tub (09/25/09 09:42 PM)
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Jay_Bird
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 01/04/06
Posts: 959
Loc: Nevada 36N 115W
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You'll need the other bracket too Walter. The stock L-bracket with the Paragon is for binos that attach via female 1/4-20 threads at the objective end of the hinge.
Since I own several binos, I can say that the Paragon has been my single best bino-related purchase.
It adds to enjoyment of 7x50 and 10x50 and is best way to use 80mm.
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'these things stand like stone - kindness in another's troubles, courage in your own' Gordon
C-8, Nighthawk, C-90; Binoculars 6-11x21-80mm; Paragon p-mount
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meteorite
Vendor (meteorites)
Reged: 01/28/06
Posts: 265
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Hello Todd,
Thanks for the help
>the way back, you're locked at one altitude. The only way >to go is down
Not sure whst you mean. Loosening the altitude control knob, as demonstrated on page 4 figure 4, shows the binocular tilt angle changing. Mine does that.
BTW, the manual Orion sent me is a photocopy. Figures 5 and 6 on page 4 are terrible. i can't make anything out.
I attached my binoculars as per figure 4.
>It simply replaces the L
Ah. I did not know this. I don't recall reading that it replaced the adapter that came with the mount.
>The pictures of the L Adapter and Bottom Mount Adapter are >about as clear as possible
Which pictures?
>I hope you enjoy your new mount
It's great, even with the wrong adapter
Hello Jay Bird
I am really enjoying this set up. I have been using an Orion 130ST for wide field observing but no more. I was up this morning comparing the views aroudn M42 between the scope and the binoculrs and, although the FOV was similar, the view through the 20x80 was so much more "real." It seemed to have depth! It was incredible! As well, the double cluster looked as though I could reach out and touch it.
I looked for one of my favorite clusters, NGC 457 but did not see it. Oh well, I will try again tonight.
Thanks again to both of you for your help (and thanks to the OP). I will order the proper adapter.
-Walter
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Man in a Tub
Not Retired!, But a little cranky!!!
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Hi again, Walter
This reply is corrected. Your reply about attaching your 20x80 to the L Adapter made me suddenly realize that I goofed!
My first experiment is a laugh! In a rush and without checking with one of my other binoculars, I put the L Adapter on backwards. I apologize. However, my thoughts about the second experiment with the L Adapter attached correctly are the same even though I thought it was on backwards!
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The pictures of the L Adapter and Bottom Mount Adapter are about as clear as possible.
Which pictures?
On the first page of this thread, there are three pictures in Carl's post #2117652, 1/13/08 @ 11:42 AM.
The second picture is the Bottom Mount Adapter alone and the third picture shows the Bottom Mount Adapter attached. The third picture is preceded by the text:
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And this last image is of the above mentioned bracket #07589 mounted on the p-gram:
This is a much more stable, secure and safe way to mount your 20x80. I'm glad you're going to get the Bottom Mount Adapter.
BTW, you can download the manual in PDF format from Orion's website. I'm pretty sure of that because I have two copies of it.
I've had mine since November 2007. The first thing I observed with my Celestron Skymaster 20x80 mounted on the Orion Paragon Plus/Paragon XHD Tripod was Comet Holmes when it was almost at zenith. My next door neighbor and his son took a look too. And we're all different heights.
Clear Skies!
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Todd
Brunton Eterna 15x51 ° Garrett Optical Signature Series 15x70
Nikon Action EX 12x50 ° Oberwerk 15x60 and 20x80 Standard
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod
Garrett Optical Series 2000 Grip-Action Monopod
Edited by Man in a Tub (09/25/09 09:48 PM)
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Man in a Tub
Not Retired!, But a little cranky!!!
Reged: 10/28/08
Posts: 2054
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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BTW, you can download the manual in PDF format from Orion's website. I'm pretty sure of that because I have two copies of it.
Here's a direct link to the PDF manual for the Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod:
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod PDF
Sorry to hear they're only providing smudgy copies.
Best regards,
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Todd
Brunton Eterna 15x51 ° Garrett Optical Signature Series 15x70
Nikon Action EX 12x50 ° Oberwerk 15x60 and 20x80 Standard
Orion Paragon Plus Mount and Paragon XHD Tripod
Garrett Optical Series 2000 Grip-Action Monopod
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