rydberg
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Re: New acquisitions
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#4304577 - 01/10/11 12:17 PM
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Hi Simon: Thanks for the pointers. Most of my astro-binoculars are Pentax (my wife absconded the celestron )and all have a sharp but narrow fov. Which 7x35 (let's stick for wide fov for now as they are rare today) do you suggest I look for? I am not in really vintage (yet ), 60's 70's will do. Marco
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pcad
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Re: New acquisitions
[Re: rydberg]
#4304945 - 01/10/11 02:37 PM
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I noticed the 7x35 Discoverer auction. Looks pretty clean. Good luck with them.
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daniel_h
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Re: zeiss 6x18
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i just purchased a zeiss 6x18 to keep on my display shelf as an antique -however the collimation is off, i would like to clean them up -does someone have some suggestions -there is no screws on the body that i can see to open them up?
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daniel_h
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Re: zeiss 6x18
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i managed t get the objective ring off -the metal ring underneath has some small indentations -should i continue un-screwing
Edited by daniel_h (01/12/11 04:39 AM)
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rydberg
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Reged: 02/25/04
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Manon 16x50
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Hello everyone: I stumbled upon vintage Manon binoculars a while ago and the little pagoda design on the left barrell is calling me... I don't know much about them, and so may have just tossed $15, but hopefully these will be worth a shot. I purchased a pair of 16x50 Manon with a 4 deg field. The seller claims they were dropped, so they probably will need collimation and/or repair. I am betting that the prisms just shifted and did not break. They look "different" to me, in a good way. If nothing else, once cleaned, they will be a good conversation piece. Here's a photo Marco
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Jay_Bird
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Re: Manon 16x50
[Re: rydberg]
#4309254 - 01/12/11 11:27 AM
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I bought a pair of these in a 'package' deal at a yard sale when seller would not split up from a C-90, etc. Mine were dropped/misaligned too, and after unsuccessful tinkering (a practice I've abandoned since) I learned
1) they are well made, lots of seemingly good materials and workmanship - I hope you can repair yours and
2) the eyepieces are nice wide-field, not typical Kellner or reversed Kellner, and a secure drop fit into .965 focuser on classic scopes.
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Simon S
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Re: Manon 16x50
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#4309736 - 01/12/11 03:32 PM
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Daniel. if you remove the objectives you may loose collimation totally. I need clearer pictures to see whats going on.
Marco. Manon seemed to be a brand solely for US markets, I have a pair somewhere but mine have poor misty optics. Some people highly rate this binocular.
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Simon S
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Re: Manon 16x50
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Trawling the UK listings of used binoculars I am used to coming across unremarkable binoculars listed for ridiculous money. The one doing the rounds at the moment is a pawn shop selling a Japanese Ajax porro with single coatings circa 1960 for an unbelievable £169! But last week I came across a Ross binocular listed in a UK based pawn shop, with little detail and a poor photograph. The price was £15.99 + postage, so I took a chance and bought them. They arrived today, and what a good buy I made! These Ross Stepron's are absolutely mint, lenses crystal clear, the focus still stiff due to lack of use. The case is perfect no restoration was required internally as the prisms were totally free of haze. I have an earlier version of this model, and although not quite the same sweet spot, this is a great British binocular.
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rydberg
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Super Dreadnought
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Hello everyone:
I am dipping my big toe in the waters of vintage binoculars. I am sure there are sharks in the water, but here it goes
I bought a pair of Galileian Binoculars for $7.00. The only writing on them is "Super Dreadnought", and for what I have been able to find they are of WWI vintage. I don't know what to expect of Galileian Binoculars (never looked trough any), but they seem to have a mag of about 2, they can focus really up close, and even with the eyepieces all the way out, the are rather ...nearsighted. Objects in distance appear a bit bigger, but just as blurry to my eyes (I am nearsighted) as without binoculars. Design seems very minimalistic: two objective lenses (converging) and two eyepiece lenses (diverging). Is this the way they work, or are there parts missing? I am enclosing three pictures.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks!
Marco
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rydberg
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Re: Super Dreadnought
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rydberg
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Re: Super Dreadnought
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#4331698 - 01/22/11 10:48 AM Attachment (35 downloads)
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Bensi
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Re: Super Dreadnought
[Re: rydberg]
#4333592 - 01/23/11 04:35 AM
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english:
Hello Mark, I want to be honest ... I do not think a pair of binoculars of great value, even its technical and historical.
I am not very expert Galilean binoculars but if you want a good example of the WW1 binoculars you have to try the binoculars of the writing as the most obvious indication that the military binoculars.
For example, the British Army binoculars were engraved the "arrows", also in addition to the instrument optical binoculars were equipped with beautiful leather case which in my opinion ... they are the best, binoculars themselves.
I do not know if the translation is coming as well .. but you know Italian, please translate perfectly better sense of my message for the friends of the English language (a language which I love but have very little to my knowledge).
Italiano:
Ciao Marco, voglio essere sincero ...non mi sembra un binocolo di gran valore , ne tecnico e nemmeno storico.
Io non sono molto esperto di binocoli galileiani ma se tu vuoi un buon esemplare di binocolo della WW1 devi cercare sul binocolo delle scritte più evidenti che lo indichino come binocolo militare.
Ad esempio sui binocoli dell'Esercito Britannico erano incise le "arrows", inoltre al solo strumento ottico , i binocoli erano dotati di stupende custodie di cuoio che secondo il mio parere...sono più belle, dei binocoli stessi.
Non so se la traduzione è venuta bene ..ma siccome tu conosci l'italiano perfettamente ti prego di tradurre meglio il senso del mio messaggio per gli amici di lingua inglese(un lingua che adoro ma sono molto scarso per le mie conoscenze).
Ciao - Bye a tutti !!
Marco Bensi
Edited by Bensi (01/23/11 04:37 AM)
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rydberg
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Re: Super Dreadnought
[Re: Bensi]
#4334515 - 01/23/11 02:16 PM
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Hi Marco: I will wite in English first then Italian. I have to say that, as a novelty item for me, the price was right. But after having had the chance of looking at it, I agree with you diagnosis: boring. As a binocular is pretty useless, and there is not much into it. I was "hoping" there were part missing because otherwise this bino really makes me want me to say "why bother". As you said, the values of these binos seems to be more in the leather cases (which this one doesn't have) than in the bino itself. Back to the hunt... In Italiano: Devo dire che, essendo per me una novita', il prezzo a cui l'ho pagato era quello giusto (~5 euro). Dopo averlo esaminato un po', devo dire che sono d'accordo con la tua diagnosi: noioso. Come binocolo, non ha nessun uso, e veramente e' molto rudimentale. Talmente tanto che quasi "speravo" ci fossero parti mancanti perche altrimenti non ne valeva proprio la pena. Hai ragione: il valore di una bella custodia di cuoio (che questo binocolo non ha) sarebbe superiore al binocolo stesso. La caccia continua... Grazie! Marco
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rydberg
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Manon 16x50 (again)
[Re: rydberg]
#4334550 - 01/23/11 02:32 PM
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Hello everyone: I finally received the Manon 16x50 I asked about a few messages ago and while it was indeed dropped (the right bell showed the telltale signs of a frontal header), the bino was still collimated! It was overall very clean, with the diopter adjustment a little stiff from non-use. I took the objectives bells out, cleaned the treads and blew out some dust. The diopter adjusted has plenty of travel to adjust for my different eyes. The Bluish coatings on the lenses clearly indicates MgFl coating. The prism have mark, look like a Crescent moon. I now see why some people like these binos: The prisms are not cemented in place, and I don't see any prism adjusting screws. The prisms have, however, a shelf arrangement in which they only go in one way. This requires pretty tight tolerances in machining. Perhaps that is why these are still in collimation. Marco
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Simon S
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Re: Manon 16x50 (again)
[Re: rydberg]
#4334582 - 01/23/11 02:43 PM
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Marco, some of the binoculars, are good, they are cheap to buy and my Yashica 10x50's (that I was using today) are almost Jenoptem in their quality and better built. The Dreadnought I have never heard of and doubt of any value.
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Bensi
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Taylor Hobson MKIII 1943 - with graticule
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Finally! Another historical binoculars that have long tried to take (in good condition and good price).
A Taylor Hobson 6x30, the year 1943, with graticule and caps to enter "dry air" or "nitrogen" .
I got it on ebay in the UK - Petersborough.
Binoculars are perfect, clean enough for a collimated offrier a beautiful vision, though, cleaning ... you could have a brighter image (but now is a little gray, but razor sharp).
Maybe I will not start to dismantle it to bring maximum optical performance, because the binoculars I came with all the wax original and has never been opened ... I seem to remove a bit of charm to the binoculars.
I am always excited to have a pair of binoculars in his hands that was supplied to the soldiers of WW1 and WW2.
My passion, as you may have guessed, is especially dedicated to these historical and emotional aspects.
This MkII and MkIII models produced by Kershaw and Taylor, are not rare, but I like having a pair of binoculars like this ... because it was an important piece in the last world war, a bit like the M3 for the army USA.
I send some pictures taken from ebay (the sale) but will send some other brief photo taken by me.
Bye Marco
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Bensi
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Re: Taylor Hobson MKIII 1943 - with graticule
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There is also a big red letter "W" or "M" painted on the front cover of the binoculars.
What do you mean the second (I ask friends and experts of the British military binoculars).
Thanks
Marco
Edited by Bensi (01/24/11 07:58 AM)
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Bensi
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Re: Taylor Hobson MKIII 1943 - with graticule
[Re: Bensi]
#4340740 - 01/26/11 02:08 AM
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I have to correct my note on the W or M painted on the binoculars Taylor. Yesterday I tried to figure out if it was a letter written in the original or added later. Using a light coat of stripper, written in red is gone. Since this does not remove the original paint stripper but only the surface ... I realized it was a sign (perhaps made by the previous owner or by the military).
However, nothing important.
bye Marco
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Re: Taylor Hobson MKIII 1943 - with graticule
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#4340858 - 01/26/11 06:23 AM
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Hello Bensi,
The dry air or nitrogen ports probably mean that the binocular was modified after WWII. Coated lenses were another improvement made after 1945.
Happy collecting, Arthur
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Bensi
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Re: Taylor Hobson MKIII 1943 - with graticule
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#4340961 - 01/26/11 08:13 AM
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Sorry ... but I think you are wrong ...
I have many texts and we all know that these valves were used in the last years of the WW2.
The book of Rohan dedicated to military binoculars confirms this in so many pictures of British binoculars.
Bye MB
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