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rthiem
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I have found a camera filter adapter that will thread into scope etalon and allow adding my early ? max40 filter to my clubs solarmax 40 scope; I think the used filter is early as it does have a Tmax but no threads on front of etalon. What I get visually is 1 bright disk with 6? other dimmer disks lined up.With the front tmax I can move the disks closer to center but not in both directions, I tried shimming with masking tape 90 degrees from tmax and got closer but not spot on. Is this nessisary or just move ghosts from field of view with Tmax; by doing this I got great improvement in surface detail over single etalon but lost the proms that I wanted. Thanks Ric
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Gene Baraff
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I have found a camera filter adapter that will thread into scope etalon and allow adding my early ? max40 filter to my clubs solarmax 40 scope; I think the used filter is early as it does have a Tmax but no threads on front of etalon. What I get visually is 1 bright disk with 6? other dimmer disks lined up.With the front tmax I can move the disks closer to center but not in both directions, I tried shimming with masking tape 90 degrees from tmax and got closer but not spot on. Is this nessisary or just move ghosts from field of view with Tmax; by doing this I got great improvement in surface detail over single etalon but lost the proms that I wanted. Thanks Ric
It sounds like you are tryng to use the TMax to move the disks just outside of your field of view --- the correct thing to do. Yet, you say that moving the TMax brings the disks even in closer. Sounds like the Tmax is tilting you the wrong way. (Not your fault - just the way the filter is sitting relative to the etalon in the SolarMax scope.
Any chance you could loosen the front filter by 1/2 turn, so that when you use the knob on the TMax, it will tilt the filter in exactly the opposite direction to what it does now?
Gene Baraff
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I may be mistaken but don't SolarMax scopes have to be sent back to Coronado to be double stacked? I think the filters have to be matched.
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rthiem
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Hi Gene, I was able to slightly loosen front etalon+Tmax assembly from scope and found one clock position that seemed brightest on the "Bright Disk" then moved the dimmer disks out of field and after lots of Tuning with scopes Tmax got both some surface with proms. looks like proms would show up on webcam better with the single setup? Ric
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Gene Baraff
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Hi Gene, looks like proms would show up on webcam better with the single setup? Ric
I don't know first hand about photography, but I've heard others say the same thing you did.
Gene
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I may be mistaken but don't SolarMax scopes have to be sent back to Coronado to be double stacked? I think the filters have to be matched.
Well, sort of...
First, solar 'scopes with internal etlons such as the PST, SolarMax, and internal etalon Lunts generally don't require any sort of "matching' - just put another etalon on the front to double stack, tilt out the ghosts, and away you go.
Second, I and many others have double stacked using second off-the-shelf etalons. The essential part of the "matching" process seems to involve determining which etalon requires the least amount of tilt to bring it "on-band." This is the etalon that is then mounted closest to the objective (lets call it the "primary" etalon.) The secondary etalon (which reqired more tilt to be on-band), is then mounted on the primary etalon, and rotated to a position where the multiple reflections it creates are removed with the least amount of additional tilt. You are now "matched."
Ideally, one would like to have etalons matched identically every time. The reality is that construction tolerances come into play, and the materials holding the etalons in their cells have some elasticity, and may require periodic adjustment of the tilts and rotations, and possibly even switching the primary and secondary etalon designations.
The new Lunt pressure-tuned etalons would seem to be ideal for double stacking from the tuning point of view, but the front etalon, it seems to me, would still require some sort of tilting to get rid of the secondary reflected images. Hopefully someone with experience with these particular filters will chime in...
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Gene Baraff
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The essential part of the "matching" process seems to involve determining which etalon requires the least amount of tilt to bring it "on-band." This is the etalon that is then mounted closest to the objective (lets call it the "primary" etalon.)
I've read the same thing, but I wonder if anybody can offer up an explanation of why this should be so?
Gene Baraff
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