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mooreorless
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Hi CL, So when are you going to get the Docter Aspectem 20x50-80? 
Welcome to Cloudy Nights!
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Regards,Steve M
Edited by mooreorless (09/08/09 03:18 AM)
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CLRobles
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Hi Steve, Thanks for having me! I would die for a set of Aspectems! I actually used a set in Ol' Mexico and they were absolutely amazing bins! Not portable at all though...
I think I'll start by getting back a pair of the 15x60 Nobilems 
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CLRobles
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Mark, any new thoughts on your Docters?
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Mark9473
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I've enjoyed them very much over the last couple of days. They are the ultimate grab-n-go for me at this time: caps remain attached so I just pick them up, hang them around my neck while heading out the back door and I'm out observing in under 5 seconds (7 if I want to bring a chair). Not even any time lost getting them out of their case since they don't come with a case.
Focus remains accurate from one session to the next - I haven't touched focus since I was out looking at tight double stars as mentioned higher up in this thread.
I've watched the ISS pass by a few times the last couple of nights. I can see a definite shape; looks a bit like two things joined together, especially well seen during "sunset" when the ISS becomes red and less bright. These 15x60 are also good to track the ISS after it has passed into the Earth's shadow, when it is much fainter (mag 8 or so?).
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Mark
Leica 8x20; Vixen 8x42; Swift 8.5x44, 10x50 and 20x80; TS 7x50; Orion 15x63; Docter 15x60
WO Megrez II 80 FD + Baader 90° T2 Amici
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CLRobles
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That's interesting! I've never thought to look for the ISS but will now!
Question Mark.... And I don't know how much you investigated the Nobilems before buying. But what have you (or anyone) heard about Docter upgrading the coatings on them (or any other of their bins)over the years? Or anything else like EP's?
Thanks again and its great to hear you are enjoying them!
Oh, one last thing Mark.... How close is ser# T1601xxx to your bins?
Edited by CLRobles (09/15/09 02:25 PM)
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Mark9473
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CL, the serial number starts with F1600xxx.
The model I bought is a brand new version with magnesium alloy housing. It is therefore a bit lighter than the previous version. There was a small scale trial production of this version in 2007, which had just sold out when I ordered one. Docter wanted to sell their existing stock of the previous version before re-starting production of the magnesium version. As of July 2009 the magnesium verion is being produced again. I don't believe the older version is still in production.
The following changes were described to me in correspondence with the dealer end of 2007, but I have of course not been able to verify any of this. Compared to the previous version, the new magnesium alloy version is said to have:
- lighter weight
- stiffer dioptre setting so that it stays put
- stiffer hinge connecting the two barrels
- reduced play in the eyepiece position, resulting in more constant focus position and more pinpoint star images on axis
- improved glass types (without further details)
- improved coatings
- more colour-neutral image
- higher light transmission
- new paint on the inside, resulting in less reflections or glare and higher contrast
- new rubber armouring without plasticizers or other nasty chemicals.
None of this is described in the documentation that comes with the binocular, nor on the Docter website (last time I checked). The only indication is a sticker on the cardboard box it ships in - see attached image.
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Mark
Leica 8x20; Vixen 8x42; Swift 8.5x44, 10x50 and 20x80; TS 7x50; Orion 15x63; Docter 15x60
WO Megrez II 80 FD + Baader 90° T2 Amici
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CLRobles
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Wow! That would be a complete overhaul of the bin! They were fantastic before so if they indeed do all of this I would really love to do some A-b ing with the now defunct Zeiss 15x60 B/GAT and the Swaro 15x56.... They were the two that were always used side by side with the Docters out here and they were better but NOT by much
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CLRobles
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Mark, Have you had a chance to compare these Docters to the Fuji 16x70's ?
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Mark9473
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No sorry, I don't have the Fuji 16x70.
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Mark
Leica 8x20; Vixen 8x42; Swift 8.5x44, 10x50 and 20x80; TS 7x50; Orion 15x63; Docter 15x60
WO Megrez II 80 FD + Baader 90° T2 Amici
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