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Crayfordjon
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Flame breaking glass new
      #3375921 - 10/07/09 03:53 AM Attachment (25 downloads)

I have been making telescopes since William the Conk invaded Saxon England and in that time have learned a few tricks and wrinkles. I developed a method of cracking out slabs of glass from a large sheet. The method is good for thicknesses from about a 1/4 TO 1/2 inch thickness. You need a small hand held butane gas cylinder fitted with a needle jet burner. Mark out the line of the crack with a felt tip merker and light the jet then adjust the flame to the smallest needle you can get. Play the jet up and down the line until the plate cracks; it goes with a gentle click. You must try the technique with scraps of glass first until you have developed the skill. Do not use old glass as this becomes crystalline with age, and it with not break well.

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Montana_Nights
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Crayfordjon]
      #3375941 - 10/07/09 04:28 AM

Huh, interesting. I'd like to try that. Do you have any pics of one of the cutouts?

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John Carruthers
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Crayfordjon]
      #3376118 - 10/07/09 08:42 AM

Hi John, how do you guide the 'vent' once it starts to run? doesn't it try to take the shortest route to the edge?
I've run a hot iron behind a cut (wheel or diamond) when restoring stained glass but never tried a naked flame.

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Gary Fuchs
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Crayfordjon]
      #3376218 - 10/07/09 09:52 AM

Interesting technique - thanks.

How long a cut have you made that way? And no need to score with a glass cutter first?

Gary

Edited by Gary Fuchs (10/07/09 10:27 AM)


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Crayfordjon
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Gary Fuchs]
      #3376308 - 10/07/09 10:44 AM

Hi John, the vent is straight, I have never tried to guide it in a curve. The impingment of the flame is very local, and the glass expands to the point of breaking along the heated portion as this becomes a stress raiser. I use the technik to cut glass into slabs before trepanning the disk out of it. Sometimes the glass will break awkwardly, so it is not a 100% cert. Gary, I have broken lengths up to 18 inches long, recently I cut up a 22 inch diameter disc, 1/2 inch thick along chords to produce sectors for further break up. You can score with a diamond, but I have recently found that there is no need to do this. If the glass is stubborn then scoring and heating with a squirt of water will crack it.

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Crayfordjon
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Crayfordjon]
      #3376314 - 10/07/09 10:46 AM

Montana nights. HI, I have not taken any pics of the process but it might be a good idea.

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Gary Fuchs
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Re: Flame breaking glass new [Re: Crayfordjon]
      #3376337 - 10/07/09 10:56 AM

Thanks John

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kfrederick
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Re: Flame breaking glass [Re: Gary Fuchs]
      #3376401 - 10/07/09 11:28 AM

Did not JAMES BOND use that to break in someware?? ha ha

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