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UnderPolaris
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M22 and my ETX-80
      #3379336 - 10/08/09 10:31 PM

I believe I found M22 tonight. It looked like a smudge considering there was some artificial light around. However, I was to the right of Sagittarius, so I'm almost positive this is what I saw.

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starrancher
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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: UnderPolaris]
      #3379443 - 10/08/09 11:31 PM

M22 is just north east of the peak of the "teapot" asterism in Sagittarius . If what you were seeing was to the right or (west) of Sagittarius you may have been seeing M6 or M7 which lie just north of the scorpions tail in Scorpius . Although these are both open clusters & quite easy to see .

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GlennLeDrew
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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: starrancher]
      #3379484 - 10/08/09 11:58 PM

Or it could have been M8, the Lagoon nebula. Yes, it's to the *upper* right of the Teapot, but to the right in general. M6 and M7 are easily resolved open clusters and would hardly have been seen as a 'smudge' in any optical instrument.

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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: GlennLeDrew]
      #3379638 - 10/09/09 02:49 AM Attachment (5 downloads)

There's a triangular "asterism" at about 4-5 o'clock from M22. If you saw or maybe remember it (assuming approx. a 2° FOV), you were on M22.

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Planet Bob
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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: UnderPolaris]
      #3380562 - 10/09/09 02:15 PM

You were likely observing M8, the Lagoon Nebula - it's embedded in the top of the 'steam' rising from the teapot spout. The open clusters M6 and M7 would both have been easily resolved in your 80mm (they are well resolved in 10 x 50 binoculars). If you check a star atlas you will see that M22 is located just above the left (east) side of the teapot cover. It is easily seen in binoculars and even 6 x 30 finder scopes. Locate it by centering the top of the teapot in a low power, wide field eyepiece, then move (parallel to the teapot base) slowing to the east. You should run into it within about 2 field widths. Then take her up to 120-150x. The cluster will likely appear as a coarsely granular glow with an overlay of numerous faint stars. It is a fine target for an 80mm.

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Tony Flanders
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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: UnderPolaris]
      #3381650 - 10/10/09 07:37 AM

I vote for M22 rather than M8. The small, bright blob of M22 is even more eye-catching in binoculars and small scopes than the brighter but much more diffuse glow of M8. Moreover, the bright part of M8 is the embedded star cluster, which should be at least partly resolved in an 80-mm scope.

However, it's true that M8 is well and truly to the right of the Teapot, while M22 would be more on top of it, even when the Teapot has rotated pretty far.

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UnderPolaris
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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: Tony Flanders]
      #3382987 - 10/10/09 11:03 PM

After looking at my rough sketch of the stars around what I was looking at and the location of said object in reference to the teapot, I was able to confirm that it was definitely M22. I really wish I could have had a clearer view of it. Maybe on a clearer night it will be brighter. Thanks for the help everyone!

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Re: M22 and my ETX-80 new [Re: UnderPolaris]
      #3383241 - 10/11/09 06:13 AM

Quote:

After looking at my rough sketch of the stars around what I was looking at and the location of said object in reference to the teapot, I was able to confirm that it was definitely M22. I really wish I could have had a clearer view of it. Maybe on a clearer night it will be brighter. Thanks for the help everyone!




Next year. M22 is already past its prime by the time the sky gets dark in October. Also, higher magnification helps. But 80 mm is a tad small to give a really impressive view of this cluster -- arguably the best globular visible from mid-northern latitudes.

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Second, binoculars.
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