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GaryHeath
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LCROSS report
      #3380038 - 10/09/09 09:43 AM

I had 'great' skies up here near Yosemite, and was at F10 (4064mm FL) with my 16" LX200GPS using a MallinCam CHP.
I recorded some super video of the Cabeus area via AMCap ...... but I got no indication of any impact whatsoever.
I was also watching the NASA Channel on DTV, and the chase vehicle didn't show any plum either.
I watched it go all the way in .... and nothing from it at all, even when it was seeing very small craters just before it went in.
Oh well .... hopefully the science worked as planned .......


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Gary

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Edited by GaryHeath (10/09/09 09:49 AM)


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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: GaryHeath]
      #3380069 - 10/09/09 10:04 AM

I did not bother to even go into my observatory as I did not expect to see much...

BUT visually with my naked Eye there was a very distinct flash that was hard even for my old worn out eyeballs to miss....

Bob G.

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GaryHeath
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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: Bob Griffiths]
      #3380375 - 10/09/09 12:39 PM

Well .... based on the NASA shepherd vehicle imaging results (or lack thereof)..... I suspect the Centaur hit a big ole honkin' rock ..... and there was no dust plume .... only that biiiiig 'spark' you saw!!

I fear that any non-vis spectrographic analysis will only show aluminum, titanium, traces of spent rocket fuel, and ...... some 'dry' lunar rock fragments.

Sooooo anyways ......... tomorrow night I'm goin' grunion hunting, but only because snipe ain't in season.

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Gary

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: GaryHeath]
      #3380878 - 10/09/09 06:41 PM

Even Palomar OBS said no flash.

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GaryHeath
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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: SanDiegoPaul]
      #3380928 - 10/09/09 07:08 PM

Yeah, I really hope they didn't loose the science.
They (the NASA channel) indicated that they did get some non-visual "spectral flash" data, but so far no plume.
I'm keeping the video and stills I took in case they are worth my post processing/enhancing, but I'm thinking they are only magnetic particle weights on my hard drive.

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: GaryHeath]
      #3381848 - 10/10/09 10:28 AM

If the LCROSS Centaur Stage hit a large boulder instead of powdered regolith, that would be a shame. Kind of reminds me of that Soviet Venera Venus lander that deployed a sensor that ended up deploying on a jettisoned instrument cover instead of the ground it was designed to evaluate.

Recent reports state that the trailing spacecraft was able to image the crater that the Centaur made. I have yet to see it.

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: Matthew Ota]
      #3384653 - 10/12/09 12:05 AM

OOOH but the NASA animation was good.

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: scopethis]
      #3386777 - 10/13/09 08:43 AM

I hope they didn't vaporize all the water with the impacts. "Yes, we've confirmed that there used to be water on the Moon..."

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #3387072 - 10/13/09 12:14 PM

Just a side note:

Several amateur astronomers answer Astronomy related question in the Yahoo Answers Topic - Astronomy & Space.

Over the last week we have gotten dozens of questions about the LCROSS impact like:

"Will the moon fall onto the Earth when those bombs hit it?"

"Why is NASA going to explode a nuclear weapon on the moon?"

"NASA is bombing the moon! - WHY?"


and on and on. Amazing how the general public has absolutely NO knowledge about the universe, or even history. As you know dozens of space probes have crashed into the moon since the 1960s!

A sad state of affairs, with the younger generation.

PS- if you wander around the Astronomy Topic I am known as "Bullseye" on the Answers Topic.

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Re: LCROSS report new [Re: Joe Lalumia]
      #3392327 - 10/16/09 02:37 AM

I tried to see something, but I just couldn't. All I know is that some pretty thick high-level cloud patches blocked the Moon during this critical moment. I just hope that NASA has an awesome data set as a result of this collision. It sure could benefit science about even more detailed compositions below the lunar surface (at least beyond the moonrocks brought back by the Apollo missions)...

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