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bgilb
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Problem with lightweight mirror.
      #3381502 - 10/10/09 02:45 AM

I'm about ready to design my Obsession style telescope, but the mirror I'm making myself is very light weight.

12", and only 7 pounds. Obviously this is good for portability and thermal issues, but I've run into a problem. I like the low profile obsessions with smaller mirror boxes and smaller rocker boxes, But with a light-weight mirror the altitude bearings need to be so much higher. Short of making the UTA out of paper, what can I do?


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Ian Robinson
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Re: Problem with lightweight mirror. new [Re: bgilb]
      #3381509 - 10/10/09 02:56 AM

Add some metal bars or bits of flat to the bottom of the mirror box to move the centre of gravity lower.

Kinda defeats the purpose of a light weight mirror , but so will solid tube.


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Luigi
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Re: Problem with lightweight mirror. new [Re: Ian Robinson]
      #3381630 - 10/10/09 07:08 AM

The alt axis needs to be higher. Larger diameter sectors can accomplish this without making the rocker taller. Look at ultra-light designs to see ways to keep the upper OTA as light as possible. Check out http://www.kineoptics.com/HC-2.html for ultralight helical Crayford focusers. Etc.

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Re: Problem with lightweight mirror. new [Re: Luigi]
      #3382064 - 10/10/09 12:32 PM

I solved this, somewhat unsatisfactorily, with springs in my 8" travel scope.
Using fewer or lighter trusses will help, too, if you can do it.

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Sean Cunneen
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Re: Problem with lightweight mirror. new [Re: arpruss]
      #3382143 - 10/10/09 01:18 PM

You have to build your OTA(or model it) and find the Center of gravity. extend the radius down to where you want it and route the altitude bearings as needed. No one knows the radius of arc just by looking, so yours won't look out of place. I think you will enjoy the benefits of the lightweight and I would do theextra work to take advantange of that find!

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