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paul11
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My 200mm C/F Newt Project
      #3383451 - 10/11/09 10:43 AM Attachment (98 downloads)

Hi all I thought I would post a thread on how I made my 200mm F5.475 Carbon Fibre Newt. First of all I would like to say thank you to John Carruthers for all the help he gave me with the mirror, without his help I would never of finished it. The first image just shows the mandrel with 6 coats of release agent on it. I did split the mandrel so I could remove the cardboard tube in one piece but this didn’t work very well and the cardboard tube came out in many pieces.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383464 - 10/11/09 10:49 AM Attachment (64 downloads)

In this image I have coated the mandrel in Epoxy Resin and put on the first layer of C/F and wrapped it in peel ply.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383468 - 10/11/09 10:51 AM Attachment (58 downloads)

The next day I removed the PP

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383474 - 10/11/09 10:56 AM Attachment (58 downloads)

Then I put on a 3mm layer of Coremat that I fully saturated with E/P first.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383489 - 10/11/09 11:05 AM Attachment (59 downloads)

These two images show a layer of C/F going over the Coremat, if you start of nice and straight that’s how you will finish up.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383491 - 10/11/09 11:06 AM Attachment (46 downloads)

Image 2

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383493 - 10/11/09 11:10 AM

Looking very good! What is Peel Ply???

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383503 - 10/11/09 11:16 AM Attachment (53 downloads)

Then I applied one more layer of C/F and three more coats of E/P to make sure the C/F was well under the surface. Then it was outside to cut the surface down until it was even and finish it with 1200 wet n dry.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383519 - 10/11/09 11:26 AM Attachment (43 downloads)

When I was happy with the look of the C/F it was back into the workshop to cut the tube to length (1200mm). I set the depth on the Router, set the fence and ran it around the tube.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383523 - 10/11/09 11:27 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

And 2

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383587 - 10/11/09 11:58 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

Then I applied a single coat of Blakes 2 component high gloss clear polyurethane varnish all I have to do now is to finish it off with a burnishing cream.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383619 - 10/11/09 12:08 PM Attachment (45 downloads)

Then I made the lid for the tube, I used a piece of hardboard for the base and cardboard for the walls and put on a single layer of C/F and finished it the same as the tube. To remove the cardboard and hardboard from the C/F I just put it in a bucket of water for a few hours.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383622 - 10/11/09 12:09 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

lid

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project new [Re: paul11]
      #3383642 - 10/11/09 12:15 PM Attachment (43 downloads)

Lid on tube

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: Wes James]
      #3383721 - 10/11/09 12:53 PM

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Looking very good! What is Peel Ply???


Hi Wes the peel ply is an extremely strong material that you can pull tight over the C/F to give a very even finish. It allows any excess glue to pass through it. The only thing is it gives a matt finish so I didn’t use it on the final layer of C/F I just let it dry on it’s own.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383943 - 10/11/09 03:42 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

Now for the mirror cell, for this I laminated 3 layers of Coremat and 4 layers of C/F. I made this up between 2 pieces of 6mm glass.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383947 - 10/11/09 03:44 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

Then I put some weight on it and left it overnight and then made a second one.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383956 - 10/11/09 03:47 PM Attachment (45 downloads)

With a simple jig the band saw cuts perfect circles every time.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383963 - 10/11/09 03:50 PM Attachment (35 downloads)

Here’s a close up of the edge of the disc.

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Re: My 200mm C/F Newt Project [Re: paul11]
      #3383973 - 10/11/09 03:56 PM Attachment (42 downloads)

Here are the 2 discs, both 10mm thick and top disc on the left has the brass threaded inserts for the adjustment bolts.

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