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John Miranda
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M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700
      #3394184 - 10/17/09 08:25 AM

This morning's shot, this composite made from 4 exposures at 20 Secs, ISO 1600, then 2 at 5 Secs, and 1 at 2 secs.

I used a Celestron CPC 1100 + Hyperstar.



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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: John Miranda]
      #3394244 - 10/17/09 09:25 AM

That came out really nice! I wonder if you added, say, 4X30 second lights, the outer faint nebulosity would be much more evident? With the short lights you did, you'd be able, as you've done here, eliminate the dreaded core blowout.

Anyway, a really nice image!

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3394396 - 10/17/09 11:20 AM

Wow 20 sec , that Hyperstar is just so dang cool.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3394444 - 10/17/09 11:37 AM

Amazing the data you got with 20 sec!

Very well done.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: Javier1978]
      #3394660 - 10/17/09 01:51 PM

How did you combine the short with the long? I have some 30 sec Hyperstar exposures using a Nexstar 11 GPS as well as some 10, 8, and 5 second exposures that have fairly nice core detail. I would love to get these images together but I can't seem to combine them in the correct way.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: JPGriffin]
      #3394851 - 10/17/09 04:01 PM

That is a great image John, running man looks very, very nice.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: villaltame]
      #3394865 - 10/17/09 04:27 PM

Thank you everyone. David, you inspired me to add 4 more 20 second subs that were taken last night and align those as well. so now I have 8 x 20 second subs + 2 x 5 seconds + 1 x 2 seconds.

Here is the revised image, as per David's suggestion, and I think it reveals more nebula detail. Do you all prefer the first or second version?

JPGriffen - Regarding your question - I use Photoshop CS4, I open the base image (long exposures). I then open the short exposure image, copy, then paste as a new layer onto the base image document. At this point, they need alignment: I set layer blending mode to 'difference' to easily see mis-registration, then use free transform to align the two layers (I shot this in Alt-AZ).

Once registered, I reset layer blending back to 'normal'.

Next you want to hide the low exposure image except for the center, blown out area. To do this, click on your 'low exposure layer' which should be on top, then under "Layer" menu, select Layer Mask, "Hide All". This completely hides your low exposure version.

Next, click on your mask, use the brush, don't make it too small, maybe ~20-50 pixels, select white color, set opacity to maybe 15-20% and start revealing the 'darker' center by clicking on the center image area. A last step is use gaussian blur to make your blending more natural. Sorry for all the steps, but this is how I do it. Maybe there are other better ways...



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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: John Miranda]
      #3395032 - 10/17/09 07:00 PM

Great image, a real vote for hyperstar.
How did you focus at that narrow a depth of focus?

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: lawrie]
      #3395072 - 10/17/09 07:38 PM

wow i want a hyperstar!!

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: bardo]
      #3395080 - 10/17/09 07:45 PM

If that doesn't sell a bunch of Hyperstars I don't know what will.

20s exposures in Alt Az mode ... very nice work John.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: mclewis1]
      #3395152 - 10/17/09 08:39 PM

Thank you!

My DSLR has a 'live view' mode, so I plug it via USB into a laptop and use the laptop's display to both align the telescope and focus. I find that by zooming the display, I can achieve really good focus. I find this mode extremely helpful.

Without a live view mode, I would imagine it would be doable but a little more tedious, take a picture, blow it up on a laptop, examine, adjust focus, take another picture, etc...

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: John Miranda]
      #3395353 - 10/17/09 11:01 PM

Quote:

Thank you!

My DSLR has a 'live view' mode, so I plug it via USB into a laptop and use the laptop's display to both align the telescope and focus. I find that by zooming the display, I can achieve really good focus. I find this mode extremely helpful.

Without a live view mode, I would imagine it would be doable but a little more tedious, take a picture, blow it up on a laptop, examine, adjust focus, take another picture, etc...




Thanks for the reply about the 'core correction.' My 5DM2 has live view as well but I never thought to use it for focusing. I currently use Nebulosity and try to get my Half Flux Radius (HFR) as close to '1' as possible. If you are using magnified live view, can you use a large target like Jupiter or do you go to the object that you want to image and try to focus from there?


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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: JPGriffin]
      #3395391 - 10/17/09 11:33 PM

Wow, very nice, especially after the additional short subs.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: bryansay]
      #3395532 - 10/18/09 01:28 AM

All you need now is a frame!! Excellent image.

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3395629 - 10/18/09 04:09 AM

Stunning and a testament to all Hyperstars claims.
To get that level of detail in just a few minutes exposure is remarkable! Every imager should have one!

Now... there's just the small problem... of price

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Re: M42 and Running Man with Nikon D700 new [Re: KevinUK]
      #3395777 - 10/18/09 08:44 AM

Hi JP Griffin, when connecting your DSLR to your laptop In live view mode, you can focus using any bright star. Being slightly off focus will immediately enlarge the star's size on the laptop's monitor. I imagine something like Jupiter would work well.

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