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SyedRaza
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Hi
There is a galaxy right at [ RA 13h 27m 46s ] [ DEC 54d 47'57" ] in Ursa Major (not easily visible in the sky these days) just a little north east of Alcor, is there a place where I can find it's information i-e name NGC no.(if there is one) etc., specially that how much magnification will be needed in a large aperture scope?
Thanks
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Syed
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Man in a Tub
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Hallo Northern Sky at Deepsky Level 3 shows PGC 47178 at this location.
You may find NED helpful. You can query by RA and DEC.
NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database (NED)
This site was recommended to me several weeks ago for galaxies. I haven't used it yet. Note my equipment.
Best Regards,
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Todd
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Bill Weir
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When I plug those coordinates into SIMBAD I come up with this.
http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=%40529612&Name=MCG%2b09-22-064&submit=submit
Click on the Aladin Previewer to see if this is the galaxy you are meaning.
I might try for this with my 12.5" scope from a very dark site but wouldn't expect success. You never know until you try. With objects like this observing experience is your best weapon. I'm guessing 200X + would be needed and then maybe might pick up that bright core.
Good luck.
Bill
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SyedRaza
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Thanks a lot Todd and Bill, this is what I was looking for, plus, very informative websites that I never knew of.
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Syed
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Tony Flanders
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There is a galaxy right at [ RA 13h 27m 46s ] [ DEC 54d 47'57" ] in Ursa Major (not easily visible in the sky these days) just a little north east of Alcor, is there a place where I can find it's information i-e name NGC no.
OK, now you've really piqued my curiosity! Exactly how did you stumble upon this incredibly obscure 16th-magnitude galaxy?
I would call it UGC 8462, by the way. My rule of thumb for chosing among a typical galaxy's 8 to 10 designations is Messier first, NGC second, UGC third, and only then use the PGC designation. Many people would also use the MCG designation (MCG 9-22-64) in preference to the PGC. Or CGCG 271-42.
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Tony Flanders
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wfj
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Perhaps it could be called Alcor's ghost?
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Man in a Tub
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I would call it UGC 8462, by the way. My rule of thumb for chosing among a typical galaxy's 8 to 10 designations is Messier first, NGC second, UGC third, and only then use the PGC designation. Many people would also use the MCG designation (MCG 9-22-64) in preference to the PGC. Or CGCG 271-42.
Thanks, Tony. That's very useful so I can be on the "same" page around here.
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Todd
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sgottlieb
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OK, now you've really piqued my curiosity! Exactly how did you stumble upon this incredibly obscure 16th-magnitude galaxy?
I would call it UGC 8462, by the way. My rule of thumb for chosing among a typical galaxy's 8 to 10 designations is Messier first, NGC second, UGC third, and only then use the PGC designation. Many people would also use the MCG designation (MCG 9-22-64) in preference to the PGC. Or CGCG 271-42.
When I read this thread tonight I thought I probably had observed this galaxy as I like picking off obscure galaxies near bright stars. Interestingly, though I missed UGC 8462 I've observed a galaxy even closer to Mizar, namely MCG +09-22-053, which resides just 13' SW of Mizar!
MCG +09-22-053 = CGCG 271-034 = PGC 46714
13 22 32.5 +54 49 06
0.8'x0.6', Mag(B) = 15.0
18" (6/7/08): this galaxy is located in the same low power field of Zeta UMa (Mizar/Alcor). At 200x and 262x it appeared faint, very small, round, 18" diameter [elongated on the DSS]. Situated 50" SSE of a mag 11 star. It's surprising this galaxy is never mentioned as a challenge as Mizar is such a well-known double star.
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SyedRaza
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OK, now you've really piqued my curiosity! Exactly how did you stumble upon this incredibly obscure 16th-magnitude galaxy?
Yes tony as Steve said it's nearby the popular star pair, plus it's mag w/filter is under 15 I guess.
Syed
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David Knisely
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OK, now you've really piqued my curiosity! Exactly how did you stumble upon this incredibly obscure 16th-magnitude galaxy?
Yes tony as Steve said it's nearby the popular star pair, plus it's mag w/filter is under 15 I guess.
Syed
Well, its blue magnitude is 15.7 (photographic magnitude is 15.5) and it is a spiral (class Sab). The color index of many spirals is in the 0.5 to 0.8 range, so the true visual magnitude of the galaxy is probably in the range of 14.9 to maybe as faint as 15.2. Clear skies to you.
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SyedRaza
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Thanks David for clarifying upon the magnitude. I wasn't quite sure of it.
Clear skies to you too
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Syed
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